P90 Shenanigans

[๖ReS]

I thought you said you reduced it to 0.50, my bad.



And dude, just because I built a cade with a scout doesn't mean I like to or want to.

I can build a fucking cade with a knife.

BEAT DAT SHIT.

[Mallissin]

This is correct, the p90 was overlooked. The ranks have been fixed to give it the same point value as the pump shotgun. This is only slightly more points than for getting a para kill by a difference of .5 it is still less than the other weapons by a significant amount. The point reduction is about 24% for the p90 from its previous value.

That seems like a great start. Also seems like the two shotguns should be dropped a tad as well, but still working on the numbers.

I couldn't find Rate of Fire information for the P228 in-game, so if anyone has seen it or would like to figure it out, I'd appreciate it.

I'm building a spreadsheet with information to compare so we might be able to make adjustments without being so arbitrary. I'll post when I get three formulas done that are giving me headaches.

That said, if we do want to use actual data to determine the rank modifiers, how should it be done?

I'd personally like to see them adjusted to promote variety, weighting weapons that aren't used often for higher rank modifiers.

[Sin]

I can build a fucking cade with a knife.

BEAT DAT SHIT.

I build 'cades wit deez nuts.

[Christmas]

I build 'cades wit deez nuts.

Seriously sin? You are worse than autumn when you do that.

[Sin]

Seriously sin? You are worse than autumn when you do that.

Thank you for recognizing my spamming ways! <3

[-=NYS=- C.O.]

Seriously sin? You are worse than autumn when you do that.

No one is worse than her.

[Jeimuzu]

Still, got to give him credit for trying.

[Sin]

Still, got to give him credit for trying.

Thanks to you, too, James. You guis are really making my heart warm.

[Jeimuzu]

You know I love you all.

[Mallissin]

The two shotguns definitely need their modifiers reduced, especially the pump. Here's a quick list of the top weapons, their observed damage per minute, maximum possible damage per minute and a comparison.

Weapon,Observed DMG/Min,Maximum DMG/Min,Percent of Potential

m249, 2988, 57000, 5.24%
m3, 3867, 11352, 34.07%
p90, 1458, 30800, 4.73%
m4a1, 1320, 40200, 3.28%
elite, 614, 13320, 4.61%
ak47, 1550, 33300, 4.66%
deagle, 723, 14560, 4.97%
xm1014, 1224, 9009, 13.59%
sg552, 1288, 24840, 5.19%
aug, 1187, 21360, 5.56%
tmp, 1547, 18360, 8.42%
fiveseven, 550, 13320, 4.13%
hegrenade,,,
scout,,,
mp5navy, 812, 13770, 5.89%
usp, 329, 8712, 3.78%
glock, 421, 9180, 4.59%
galil, 1197, 25760, 4.65%
knife,,,
p228,,,
awp,,,
famas, 1324, 20750, 6.38%
g3sg1, 2657, 38280, 6.94%
sg550, 3152, 30300, 10.40%
mac10, 1066, 16200, 6.58%
ump45, 731, 26775, 2.73%

You can pretty quickly pick-out the shotguns (two highest percentages). The TMP beating out one of the auto-snipers was surprising.

Anyway, should probably drop both shotguns to lower than para.

Attached is the spreadsheet (xlsx) I used to calculate.