WCS rules questions

[Blackmage]

"no summing people 2 fall 2 there death. they obviously deserve a fighting chance." I've never heard this, in fact, I've only heard the exact opposite thing (see: the trolley on deathcookin)

For skywalking: again, return fire with WHAT?

What's the beginning of a round? 5 seconds? 10 seconds? 3 minutes? I won't do it(again) but still, open ended answers are useless.

The objective is to rescue hosties/plant/defuse the bomb OR kill all the enemies. It is a team based game, and if you stop the enemy team, you win just as well as if you plant the bomb. This is a just as important goal, since at least as many rounds end due to TPK.

But, making my way to the objective, just because I'm not running in like rambo when I've just been fighting people who I didn't kill, doesn't mean I'm not going to do it. It just means I'm not an idiot. (this comment is for slayings that have happened)

We do (sort of) have this unwritten rule, and still, people on both sides camp, even with them being the last ones, and we almost never have 3 minute rounds, and when we do, it's usually down to the wire. Please don't tell me what I or anyone else would do, since you can only tell me what YOU would do.

Also, why 1 minute? Why this arbitrary amount of time? I can plant the bomb in what, 3 seconds? Most maps you can get from one end of the map to the other in about 20 seconds, and with WCS, often less. Why do you force us to rush when we have plenty of time?

Oh, and there is also no you(u) in team, but I can find a me On a related note, people who think kdr is the most important factor in determining who is a good player don't understand that this IS a team game, not a solo game.

[maynard]

fine ill be even more specific. look at what your objective is, how many people you have 2 go against and make sure you have enough time 2 do it. and I told you a while back when zero was in the game on Vegas that summoning people in the vents is NOT allowed because what I said happens did, my upper body was glitched off the map, and only me legs were in the game. I don't know what you're talking about in regards 2 summoning people to there death, but no, that's not allowed, and ive only seen a couple people do it in my daily playing there. and as for both sides camping.. well yeah... 1 side will always have that advantage. that's why we play diff maps, 2 switch it up.

Oh, and there is also no you(u) in team, but I can find a me .

Don't make me stab you

[Blackmage]

I'm asking it so I can get the official word on things since there are MANY variations on peoples rulings.

Most of them I know (such as vent summoning) but others don't. If there is some form of official word, and not just word of mouth, to show people, it makes life easier and ends up with less conflicting reports (see port and compound boundaries questions)

And some just don't come up in many maps, such as summoning to the death. We only have, what, 3 maps you can do that in, and none are played very often?

[maynard]

Chronic, Recoil and myself are the most frequent playing admins there. and since the new classes came out, we've had quite a few new admins who've come and gone. but the prob was they were inforcing rules they didn't know or understand. I find with chronic, recoil and myself, us 3 seem 2 be pretty much on the same page regarding rules. but these new admins would start saying shit that's not true, then the people would start spreading it, and yeah.. we end up with confusing and mixing stories. if zero will allow me I can write the rules for WCS and have zero chron and recoil all look over them, agree and then we could post it on forums and make it official, and add 2 it as new races come out and what not. would probably solve lot's of confusion and give new admins on WCS a guide as 2 how things happen.

[Christmas]

"no summing people 2 fall 2 there death. they obviously deserve a fighting chance." I've never heard this, in fact, I've only heard the exact opposite thing (see: the trolley on deathcookin)

For skywalking: again, return fire with WHAT?

Any kind of weapon. If you can hit them and they can't hit you, then you can't shoot at them from that spot. Simple as that.

What's the beginning of a round? 5 seconds? 10 seconds? 3 minutes? I won't do it(again) but still, open ended answers are useless.

If players are still leaving spawn then you should not do it. Is twenty seconds a good enough number for you?

The objective is to rescue hosties/plant/defuse the bomb OR kill all the enemies. It is a team based game, and if you stop the enemy team, you win just as well as if you plant the bomb. This is a just as important goal, since at least as many rounds end due to TPK.

And if you can't kill the enemies by the end of the round, you aren't doing the objective. That happens a lot with camping, and the other team will just sit in THEIR spawn waiting for the clock to run out. But the thing is they can because their objective is to keep the hostages from being rescued or the bomb from being planted.

But, making my way to the objective, just because I'm not running in like rambo when I've just been fighting people who I didn't kill, doesn't mean I'm not going to do it. It just means I'm not an idiot. (this comment is for slayings that have happened)

That's what he said.

We do (sort of) have this unwritten rule, and still, people on both sides camp, even with them being the last ones, and we almost never have 3 minute rounds, and when we do, it's usually down to the wire. Please don't tell me what I or anyone else would do, since you can only tell me what YOU would do.

If you play in pub or WCS, you see campers A LOT. Just because you don't doesn't mean others don't either.

Also, why 1 minute? Why this arbitrary amount of time? I can plant the bomb in what, 3 seconds? Most maps you can get from one end of the map to the other in about 20 seconds, and with WCS, often less. Why do you force us to rush when we have plenty of time?

You just said 1 minute is plenty of time, so it isn't anything close to rushing. One minute gives you a good amount of time to be able to be sneaky and keep from getting killed while doing your objective. You seem to be argumentative for arguments sake.

Oh, and there is also no you(u) in team, but I can find a me On a related note, people who think kdr is the most important factor in determining who is a good player don't understand that this IS a team game, not a solo game.

Okie dokie smokie.


And for the record ZERO has not made a specific set of rules to follow. I have been working on a rulebook of my own that features a lot of specific items that I hope he will implement in the future.

Hope you don't mind me helping out Maynard.

[maynard]

Hope you don't mind me helping out Maynard.

of course not. I just sent Zero a msg asking for permission 2 start an official rule list. I already have most of it written out. if he allows me 2 do it so we can put a end 2 all these questions n confusion then ill get ya 2 hit me up with what ya got. I'm sure you're on the same page as me with most things. hopefully zero sees this soon or my personal msgs 2 him and allows me 2 get started on this. cause we deff need it

[Hitman]

There has been alot of talk on the server about the wards.

for one, Zero did state that Warding cannot be used to block objectives, for example a bombsite on the map or the hostage area/rescue zone.

Now it gets tricky here with the hostages being moved, technically you are doing an objective and the enemy is trying to kill you, I see it as a challenge and furthur play to rescue them so as long as your not placing them on the hosties, everything else should be allowed.