Reality...

[XxMastagunzxX]

It sounded weird the way I typed it, but I fixed it now

[maynard]

It sounded weird the way I typed it, but I fixed it now

they're not ideas, they're facts I saw on TV live as the event took place Lol.

[StarsMine]

myself and christmas don't agree.

You misread him
Maynard, you are an idiot, go ask a real engineer not just some BS conspiracy theorist.

[loka]

That depends on how much jet fuel a 757 can carry. I saw it live from when it hit to when it went down, and for as much oxygen and combustible material you're giving to a fire... the minute you saw it starting to tip you knew it was done. That's why I don't play with fire.

[maynard]

lmfao... yeah... I'm sure a 757 made that small hole Lol





and loka, fire can't melt steel <--- fact. and in the odd event it some how found a way 2, it would have melted the top of the building, not the bottom, like I said the building would not implode on it's self, it would have fallen over.

[XxMastagunzxX]

the fact is, the support beams could not be made hot enough 2 collapse.. the fires and the engine heat, was not enough. that's a fact. the building collapsed on it's self... and they say it's cause the support beams got 2 hot, that is just not possible lol. also if they did get 2 hot the building would have not imploded in on it's self it would have rolled over falling into other buildings

THAT IS NOT A FACT!


And about the plane hitting the pentagon. The plane was hauling ass and the camera probably doesn't even capture 15fps. It's also not aimed right to see a plane coming.

[maynard]

THAT IS NOT A FACT!


And about the plane hitting the pentagon. The plane was hauling ass and the camera probably doesn't even capture 15fps. It's also not aimed right to see a plane coming.

there's like 50 security cameras around the pentagon, and just cause it's a slow frame camera doesn't mean it couldn't see the plane lol

and yes it is a fact, open flames can't melt steel lol. you need it in a proper oven designed for heating metals.

[StarsMine]

lmfao... yeah... I'm sure a 757 made that small hole Lol





and loka, fire can't melt steel <--- fact. and in the odd event it some how found a way 2, it would have melted the top of the building, not the bottom, like I said the building would not implode on it's self, it would have fallen over.

Dude My dad was at the pentagon when it got hit, I also went over to the pentagon a few days after it got hit, there was plane debris and building debris and a trail of destruction from where the plane hit.

[XxMastagunzxX]

there's like 50 security cameras around the pentagon, and just cause it's a slow frame camera doesn't mean it couldn't see the plane lol

and yes it is a fact, open flames can't melt steel lol. you need it in a proper oven designed for heating metals.

FACT: Jet fuel burns at 800° to 1500°F, not hot enough to melt steel (2750°F). However, experts agree that for the towers to collapse, their steel frames didn't need to melt, they just had to lose some of their structural strength — and that required exposure to much less heat. "I have never seen melted steel in a building fire," says retired New York deputy fire chief Vincent Dunn, author of The Collapse Of Burning Buildings: A Guide To Fireground Safety. "But I've seen a lot of twisted, warped, bent and sagging steel. What happens is that the steel tries to expand at both ends, but when it can no longer expand, it sags and the surrounding concrete cracks."

"Steel loses about 50 percent of its strength at 1100°F," notes senior engineer Farid Alfawak-hiri of the American Institute of Steel Construction. "And at 1800° it is probably at less than 10 percent.

[Christmas]

Maynard: Steel can be WEAKENED due to fire damage, and the steel was already WEAKENED due to structural damage. And it was. That is a FACT. Also the south tower did slightly tip before falling back into itself (check the stills) considering the majority of the damage was on one corner. The north tower went straight down because the plane hit it almost directly at center.

Also what basis do you have to imply that the tower should have just tipped over like a tree?

The footage I gave you WAS live. The firefighters testimony mainly discusses the collapse (one group talks about the towers going BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM down the building) and during a fire explosions do happen. Despite all these "explosions" there doesn't seem to be enough to show that a sufficient amount (such as what was seen in the building you showed that was less than half the size of the twin towers ) was used to destroy the building.


Also why were plane parts found by firefighters and rescue staff at the scene of the pentagon, why was a light pole shown wedged inside a taxi cab (one of five that were knocked off due to the plane hitting it), and why was there so much witness testimony discussing a large aircraft (with windows on the side)?



Perhaps a plant? By the infamous NWO?

Also a 757 COULD make that size of a hole in the pentagon. Look at the size between the damage to the pentagon and the fire truck in that frame.