Reality...

[maynard]

Curdy go back and see the video I posted. The camera is like 4 fps...definitely enough time for a plane to hit between frames

lmfao you can't see a plane in that vid, give me a break. and what you mean your vid? that's like the main video that was released by the government for them 2 have claim that a plane hit, regardless of the fact there's no plane... as I said, there's cameras on every angle of that building and across the way, all were restricted.... why? if they're not up 2 bull shit, why not just release some good footage, or 1 of the far off cameras that would actually show it.

posting the same vids thats been around for 10 years isn't any form of proof...

[maynard]

An object is visible in the video, and using that with the damage to the poles, damage to the pentagon, plane debris, identification of the bodies, and witness testimony, the evidence of flight 77 being involved is easily corroborated.

when you're the federal government, yeah, it is.

[XxMastagunzxX]

posting the same vids thats been around for 10 years isn't any form of proof...

Neither is denying everything we said and making up more excuses and showing NO proof whatsoever

Like I said all you're doing is assuming things

And the point of my arguing was not to change your mind. It was to show evidence that goes against what you are saying. I have presented my case well and I am done.

[Curdy]

like i said the BBC documentry was a very informantive piece of television. since I dont really trust you yanks to do a decent documentry.

[Christmas]

lmfao you can't see a plane in that vid, give me a break. and what you mean your vid? that's like the main video that was released by the government for them 2 have claim that a plane hit, regardless of the fact there's no plane... as I said, there's cameras on every angle of that building and across the way, all were restricted.... why? if they're not up 2 bull shit, why not just release some good footage, or 1 of the far off cameras that would actually show it.

posting the same vids thats been around for 10 years isn't any form of proof...

Because the government doesn't live to serve every waking desire you have regarding the impact.

But hey, lets look at the facts.

http://wtc7lies.googlepages.com/911p...videncesummary

[IMG]"I did see airplane seats and a corpse still strapped to one of the seats." –Capt. Jim Ingledue, Virginia Beach Fire Dept.[/IMG]

Steve Riskus: "I could see the "American Airlines" logo...It knocked over a few light poles in its way."

Mark Bright: "...at the height of the street lights. It knocked a couple down."

Mike Walter: "...it clipped one of these light poles ... and slammed right into the Pentagon right there. It was an American Airlines jet."

Rodney Washington: "...knocking over light poles"

Kirk Milburn: "I heard a plane. I saw it. I saw debris flying. I guess it was hitting light poles."

Afework Hagos: "It hit some lampposts on the way in."

Kat Gaines: "saw a low-flying jetliner strike the top of nearby telephone poles."

D.S. Khavkin: "First, the plane knocked down a number of street lamp poles."

Wanda Ramey: "I saw the wing of the plane clip the light post, and it made the plane slant.

Penny Elgas: A piece of American Airlines Flight 77 was torn from the plane as it clipped a light pole. It landed in her car. Now in the Smithsonian Institution's 9/11 collection.

Lincoln Liebner: "It was probably about thirty feet off the ground, clipping the lampposts. I could clearly see through the windows of the plane. It was maybe going 500 miles an hour - when it just flew...into the Pentagon ... less than a hundred yards away."

Take a scroll through that link for more.

[maynard]

Neither is denying everything we said and making up more excuses and showing NO proof whatsoever

Like I said all you're doing is assuming things

And the point of my arguing was not to change your mind. It was to show evidence that goes against what you are saying. I have presented my case well and I am done.

... we've been over this. my proof is being restricted by the government. it's next 2 the security tapes, and the live on site footage that was taken.

and the diff between you and I is, you guys seem 2 be trying 2 get me 2 change my mind and join your side on this argument. I'm just voicing my opinion over serous flaws behind damn near everything that happend that day. if I recall I was talking 2 loka about it, and every 1 decided 2 jump in with there opinion and harass me with crap proof on there side.

[Christmas]

... we've been over this. my proof is being restricted by the government. it's next 2 the security tapes, and the live on site footage that was taken.

and the diff between you and I is, you guys seem 2 be trying 2 get me 2 change my mind and join your side on this argument. I'm just voicing my opinion over serous flaws behind damn near everything that happend that day.

The only flaws are ones you want to find.

Out of curiosity why is the evidence presented not enough? There is witness testimony, plane debris, damage to the pentagon appropriate to the plane that hit it, damage to the lightposts appropriate to the plane that hit it, etc.

You seem to cling on a few pieces of witness testimony that you say magically disappeared, and the videos that you say the government is withholding from you. These are incredibly petty things to make such a big deal over.

[Curdy]

when i think about it more it does seem more logical now after reading that



whats so special about this pic you may ask?

well i have seen a plane crash before in an airshow some years ago and it looks exactly like that.

so i think i may have figured something out just now

[Christmas]

Maynard, if you honestly want to research another side and see some serious work regarding evidence that the government didn't commit the atrocious attacks on 9/11, just click this link.

http://wtc7lies.googlepages.com/home

[loka]

The BBC show was called 9/11 The Conspiracy Files. BBC has no ties to American politics so everything they divulge will be with no bias.

http://govinfo.library.unt.edu/911/hearings/index.htm

There's other crap, but you can find much redacted papers going to Barnes and Noble

My papers however will not be found on the internet. Professor was a former FBI agent and alot of the shit he gave us was redacted.