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[Oonyx]

I don't really care to discuss the prenuke, as I explained my mistake of assuming that the only place that could trigger the nuke in ATIX helicopter was below the stairs, and I was ready to accept a punishment for that mistake. I stepped into the area behind and above the canopy and that suprisingly triggered the nuke as well. Do you think I'm stupid and would really do that intentionally? I just wanted to hide and get humans after they had gone below the stairs.

As for your current banning, what exactly is the purpose of the spawn feature? I joined the game after about 30-45 minutes of being offline and used the zspawn to get you. Where is the rule against this? How can you refer to a rule that doesn't exist?

He also thinks he can insult my intelligence by the remarks he said about being a zombie and that's his job (i.e. changing the subject at hand)

Your vague statements conveniently didn't specify any subject or accusation.

[TheLittlestHobo]

and I was ready to accept a punishment for that mistake.

Which was why somehow you've manage to avoid a 1 day ban by coming back an hour later and playing. If you were going to accept the punishment, I would have seen you 24 hours after.

The second ban (2 hours) I've already explained. It is the fact you connected...possibly reconnected after spectating me, just to find me at my hiding spot IN THE MIDDLE OF THE GAME. The fact that you've decided to just sit on MY head and not anyone else suggest you wanted to ruin my enjoyment - by having me caught - because of the earlier ban I gave you.

This is why this issue of respawning needs to be solved soon or else we would get exploiters like Oonyx.

[Oonyx]

Which was why somehow you've manage to avoid a 1 day ban by coming back an hour later and playing. If you were going to accept the punishment, I would have seen you 24 hours after.

Fallacious argument. You must have specified the ban to be only one hour, and I connected to see if you had changed your mind on what I assumed to be a one day ban. But again, if you hadn't your mind I would have been ok with that.

The second ban (2 hours) I've already explained. It is the fact you connected...possibly reconnected after spectating me, just to find me at my hiding spot IN THE MIDDLE OF THE GAME. The fact that you've decided to just sit on MY head and not anyone else suggest you wanted to ruin my enjoyment - by having me caught - because of the earlier ban I gave you.

This is why this issue of respawning needs to be solved soon or else we would get exploiters like Oonyx.

I would have done the same to anyone else in that spot - you're not special, and there's no rule prohibiting spawning in the middle of the round. I often don't tag people and just play around as long as they're not shooting at me.

You said that what I did was "probably illegal." Please do cite a rule for your conjecture as I've seen many players spawn or even respawn without receving any punishment whatsoever.

[TheLittlestHobo]

You are right oonyx. There are no official rules against it. But let's just break down, once again, what you've just done.

Connect to the server
Spec someone that's hiding
Respawn
Uncover his position

If you do not see anything wrong with that then you are just plain dumb.

Ever tried looking into Server Rules 1.5 in the forums? Go under Ghosting. Figure out the general point of that ruling and compare it to what you are doing. No doubt there are similarities to ghosting and your respawning.

If you cannot even see that, then you need to learn some basic etiquette or else I will suggest banning you for a long time until you learn how to play nice.

[Curdy]

I have to agree with Hobo on this Oonyx. The respawn exploit as Hobo has just decribed just now seems like another form of ghosting, it may not be a rule as such but think about if someone pulled that shit on you.

And dont say you would be cool with because that would be

COW BOY BULLSHIT.

And also Oonyx you played ATIX enough fucking times to know when the nuke is triggered.

[mastercheff]

oonyx is just playing stoopid and oonyx the pokemon was even dumber just a pile of rocks with eyes

[OMGBEARS]

WAIT you can zspawn?

As for using it to uncover the position of humans, I'm completely against that. As Hobo stated that's pretty clearly ghosting. Pretty much anything that allows you to find humans without either hearing them, seeing them , or stumbling into them, is ghosting.

You should have known that it would be a very fishy thing to do!

[maynard]

oonyx is just playing stoopid and oonyx the pokemon was even dumber just a pile of rocks with eyes

lmfao

[Oonyx]

Ghosting is the use of outside programs or another person. Respawn makes the ability to see what's going on inherent in the game itself. It's a quite obvious use which I'm sure was thought of before it was enabled.

Moreover this is a really a case of uneven enforcement. If you want to ban this practice, shouldn't you or other admins have taken action against other players doing the same thing? The only time any action was taken was this instance, in order to serve a personal vendetta (Hobo seemed quite upset after I was able to come back before a day).

...but think about if someone pulled that shit on you

It has happened to me, but I didn't care one iota to whine.

And also Oonyx you played ATIX enough fucking times to know when the nuke is triggered.

Really? Ask longstanding players how to trigger the nuke on that map and I'll bet most of them say "by going down the stairs" as I had assumed.

[Curdy]

If you really don't care then its okay then for everyone else to do it to you, on one condition that you arn't allowed to do it lets see how long you last then before whinning, oh wait its fine with you no worries then.

Everyone knows the nuke goes as soon as you go down the first step at the top, it aint rocket science. We hear the nuke come in as soon as that happens, unless you think this nuke goes off instantly?

Do I have to decompile this map now and fix this pre nuke problem now.

It is rather tempting maybe I could add a trigger that teleports any pre nuker to the noob box for instant death.

Also I am a long time reg Oonyx I know the map all to well