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[Oonyx]

Hmm...let's see. 90% of the text in your first post is about the ban. Your 2nd post is almost entirely on that. Your 3rd post is entirely on the same topic, and so forth.

The ban was essentially an action based on a premise; to argue against the action is to argue against your premise. Perhaps because you now realize that the ban was based on spurious grounds, you want to focus merely on the premise. If you wanted a separate discussion thread on it, then you shouldn't have placed both topics into this one. But I see no problem with discussing both here, considering I have indeed discussed what I think about !zspawn.

My posts are not going to conform to arbitrary parameters set by you, particularly when you've shown a willingness to discuss something outside of those parameters.

[OMGBEARS]

My sentiment is that if he left the game, came back specifically to find someone hiding via spectate, then !zspawned to go to you, the ban was justified.

Joining mid-round and spectating someone then !zspawning to go to them is a very lame thing to do. Bannable? I'd certainly be pissed off it if happened to me, but I'd have to say not bannable unless compounded by other things. I know that if I joined a game mid-round and saw someone via spectate hiding I'd just act like I never saw them. Then again, I do that in several instances. For instance if the way I got to someone is through a virtually non-repeatable glitch I tend to just !ztele away or if I become a zombie in a group of people, same deal.

ZM maps are about surviving in any way you can; hiding is definitely one method. There are major drawbacks to hiding, too: you don't get kills and there's already a very high chance that you'll be found and die. I've gotten very good at tipping over vending machines for that very reason.

[TheLittlestHobo]

My sentiment is that if he left the game, came back specifically to find someone hiding via spectate, then !zspawned to go to you, the ban was justified.

Joining mid-round and spectating someone then !zspawning to go to them is a very lame thing to do.

It's relatively the same thing. You spec someone that's hiding and then you zspawn in (either reconnecting or joining midway).

I banned him because he had the INTENT to get me turned because of the last (supposed) 24 hour ban that I gave for him pre-nuking on ATIX. Then comes back later on when I'm hiding, spawns in, and sits on my head as if he is taunting me and decides to sit there until someone came and tag me. He could have tried to break other cades or get other people but he immediately spawned in and gunned for me...gee personal vendetta on me much?

It's a personal vendetta for me because he insults my intelligence on playing dumb based on the things he tells me as if he didn't know any better which I think someone who has been on the server for well over 6 months should know the basic premise on what is right and wrong...seems like he is just below pre-conventional stage of thinking.

I've already explained what I need to explain.

[Oonyx]

It's relatively the same thing. You spec someone that's hiding and then you zspawn in (either reconnecting or joining midway).

No, they're not. One allows you get around the fact you have died as a zombie. The other does not.

He could have tried to break other cades or get other people but he immediately spawned in and gunned for me...gee personal vendetta on me much?

I always go for the easiest target, which you happened to be.

seems like he is just below pre-conventional stage of thinking.

A failure to see that there are varying definitions of what is right and what is wrong, i.e. morality, is what I would I call a "pre-conventional stage of thinking."

[TheLittlestHobo]

No, they're not. One allows you get around the fact you have died as a zombie. The other does not.

I expected you to say that and not to see the main point because that's you.

I always go for the easiest target, which you happened to be.

That is true after ghosting through all human players and take the theoretically easiest target because people in hiding are easiest since you can now ghost these individuals.

A failure to see that there are varying definitions of what is right and what is wrong, i.e. morality, is what I would I call a "pre-conventional stage of thinking."

And morality is still in the form on what is right and wrong but more specific and more defined. I view it on the grand scheme of things and what I believe would be FAIR for everyone.

Although this has been fun entertaining myself to this topic and reading your now inferior responses made me grow bored of this and also having me to repeat myself countless of times.

I bid you a good day and will be seeing you on IBIS real soon. So be good. I have my close eye on you

[Oonyx]

Generally it's not the "inferior" responses that makes an individual curse another out, viz. post 29.

I bid you a good day and will be seeing you on IBIS real soon. So be good. I have my close eye on you

In turn I'll be sure to have my Fraps on you. Adieu.

[walterbrunswick]

Well then, it's settled... kinda sorta.