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[TheLittlestHobo]

My sentiment is that if he left the game, came back specifically to find someone hiding via spectate, then !zspawned to go to you, the ban was justified.

Joining mid-round and spectating someone then !zspawning to go to them is a very lame thing to do.

It's relatively the same thing. You spec someone that's hiding and then you zspawn in (either reconnecting or joining midway).

I banned him because he had the INTENT to get me turned because of the last (supposed) 24 hour ban that I gave for him pre-nuking on ATIX. Then comes back later on when I'm hiding, spawns in, and sits on my head as if he is taunting me and decides to sit there until someone came and tag me. He could have tried to break other cades or get other people but he immediately spawned in and gunned for me...gee personal vendetta on me much?

It's a personal vendetta for me because he insults my intelligence on playing dumb based on the things he tells me as if he didn't know any better which I think someone who has been on the server for well over 6 months should know the basic premise on what is right and wrong...seems like he is just below pre-conventional stage of thinking.

I've already explained what I need to explain.

[Oonyx]

It's relatively the same thing. You spec someone that's hiding and then you zspawn in (either reconnecting or joining midway).

No, they're not. One allows you get around the fact you have died as a zombie. The other does not.

He could have tried to break other cades or get other people but he immediately spawned in and gunned for me...gee personal vendetta on me much?

I always go for the easiest target, which you happened to be.

seems like he is just below pre-conventional stage of thinking.

A failure to see that there are varying definitions of what is right and what is wrong, i.e. morality, is what I would I call a "pre-conventional stage of thinking."

[Jeimuzu]

I believe that you aren't able to switch to spectate then back again so this is a moot discussion.

You can if you rejoin. But even if you go into spectate and reveal where every single hidden player is, that's ghosting.

And Oonyx, just stop. People will do this (hopefully not that much) until zspawn is disabled, so that is what needs to happen. Until then, ghosting shouldn't be a problem, unless your an admin/player that doesn't follow and/or enforce the rules when they need to be.

On a side note, if you recall Bears, Oonyx was banned for a day for prenuking. Anyone care to explain how he was back in-game before the day was up?

[TheLittlestHobo]

No, they're not. One allows you get around the fact you have died as a zombie. The other does not.

I expected you to say that and not to see the main point because that's you.

I always go for the easiest target, which you happened to be.

That is true after ghosting through all human players and take the theoretically easiest target because people in hiding are easiest since you can now ghost these individuals.

A failure to see that there are varying definitions of what is right and what is wrong, i.e. morality, is what I would I call a "pre-conventional stage of thinking."

And morality is still in the form on what is right and wrong but more specific and more defined. I view it on the grand scheme of things and what I believe would be FAIR for everyone.

Although this has been fun entertaining myself to this topic and reading your now inferior responses made me grow bored of this and also having me to repeat myself countless of times.

I bid you a good day and will be seeing you on IBIS real soon. So be good. I have my close eye on you

[Oonyx]

Generally it's not the "inferior" responses that makes an individual curse another out, viz. post 29.

I bid you a good day and will be seeing you on IBIS real soon. So be good. I have my close eye on you

In turn I'll be sure to have my Fraps on you. Adieu.

[walterbrunswick]

Well then, it's settled... kinda sorta.

[Death]

The fact that you are still continuing to argue and STILL find ways to justify your actions as acceptable is beginning to annoy me.

You spectated me
You respawned
You uncovered my position
You got me turned

It is a part of ghosting. Anyone with half a brain can see that this would be remotely wrong.

Oonyx, you know ZER0. Think about it this way, if you did that to ZER0 as you would do to me and he found out about it, what would ZER0 do?

Hint: Probably a much more worse sentence than my 2 hours.

Stop trying to justify that your actions was acceptable. Despite it not being in the rules, you should have some conscience to realize, "Hey, I probably shouldn't do this...especially to an old regular and an admin".

Again, if you cannot see your actions as being wrong, then by golly you need some fucking help.

ZER0, you do not need to make an official ruling of this. Just remove the zspawn feature.

End of discussion.

Should have built a stronger cade then he wouldn't have gotton in

[maynard]

oonyx is just playing stoopid and oonyx the pokemon was even dumber just a pile of rocks with eyes

lmfao

[OMGBEARS]

I wasn't on when he was banned for pre-nuking! However, that's a no bueno thing to do, as well.

Anyways -- I'd love to hear Zero's opinion on all this!

[Pink]

I agree... I dont play on alot of zmod server since they had zspawn. My first time on a random server I killed a zombie dropped down behind some boxxes with a minute left on the clock 20 seconds later some guy says "this taking to long" rejoins and tags me. Its bullshit. Thats all I gotta say its unfair and it is cheating. I hope zero will remove zpawn since its unfair and will be abused