Fast Zombies

[OMGBEARS]

I'm pretty sure clan members have seniority no matter when they enter the server.

Yeah. I think the only people who log in who can automatically assume the role of senior admin are Zero, and Jigsaw. Maybe there are a choice few others, but they aren't active anymore.

[Andrew_Pavlik]

I know this sort of off-topic with house rules/rules/admin discussion but why even have fast zombies?

People always complain about them on escape maps and unless I don't really understand there usefulness, they arn't that useful on cad maps(if I am wrong feel free to explain why they are)

[StarsMine]

Fast zombies are fun, and are veary usefull in escape maps the heavly favor humans.
however, in maps the favor zombies is when fast are trouble, They should not be banned outright, however on certain escape maps they kill all fun and challenge. as others have already said.

[Vladninja]

Fast zombies are fun, and are veary usefull in escape maps the heavly favor humans.
however, in maps the favor zombies is when fast are trouble, They should not be banned outright, however on certain escape maps they kill all fun and challenge. as others have already said.

That's actually a good way to put it.

Also you covered one of my major concerns. If everyone thinks fast is unfair on a certain escape map... fine... but maybe freeze the one or two noobs that wont listen.
Some Admins get a little ban happy which isn't always a bad thing but bans for not following the "bro code" are another thing. We have tons of punishments at our disposal.

[walterbrunswick]

That's actually a good way to put it.

Also you covered one of my major concerns. If everyone thinks fast is unfair on a certain escape map... fine... but maybe freeze the one or two noobs that wont listen.
Some Admins get a little ban happy which isn't always a bad thing but bans for not following the "bro code" are another thing. We have tons of punishments at our disposal.

BEARS, Oasis, Anex, and myself are lenient. We issue a LOT of warnings when it comes to fast. ZERO can check the logs.

There's only so much we can do. If players are too fucking blind and stupid to read the chat console AND/OR listen to our verbal warnings, we are left with little options.

I sometimes can't believe how retarded some players are. It's like talking to a brick wall.

[Jeimuzu]

Apparently we have some new players to the server that after playing with other admins have concluded that it's a server rule that fast zombies are banned from escape maps.

I want to know where it is outlined, and until the rule is implemented and set in stone FOR THE LOVE OF FUCKING GOD stop making this an official phantom server rule.

If you admins want to sit there and fucking babysit half the server because 3 people want to bitch about a zombie class then by all means waste your gaming time, but do not waste it at the expense of frivolous rules because you deem it as unfair.

As I say, "If you don't want fast zombies to kill everyone, don't play escape maps."

It's only for some maps. Most regulars know which maps fast are just ridiculous on, and which don't matter.

Unfortunately, not everyone knows. People keep asking me about spots, if they're 'legit' or not. Admins keep banning spots apparently. They even say "no barricading vents." If you're by yourself, then by all means, if you have the time and luck to not get tagged before being able to get a vent barricaded, then go for it. Get a deformed or two and you'll destroy them.

The only real rooms I would consider banning/freezing people for is the red room if it's barricaded, or if someone uses the giant shelf in Snoopie.

James is probably better than stamp, but nowhere near pooter, eth, or cujo.

Played with Beth, he sucked. He did nothing but camp vents, and was also really uptight.. Moreso than I.. And I've never met pooter or Cujo, or seen either of them play.

[walterbrunswick]

eth is an asshole, Oasis, I don't even know why you would bring him up.

pooter camped a lot, but he also was really good at cading and knowing the tricks in maps.

[OMGBEARS]

I know this sort of off-topic with house rules/rules/admin discussion but why even have fast zombies?

People always complain about them on escape maps and unless I don't really understand there usefulness, they arn't that useful on cad maps(if I am wrong feel free to explain why they are)

On escape maps, the fast zombies' speed is what gives it the upper hand. Seeing as escape maps are essentially a race against one another.

On Cade maps they are pretty balanced, actually. I generally prefer to be a fast because their speed helps out in the circumstance you're the first zombie -- you have a better chance of getting to cade spots in the first ~40 seconds it takes to set up a solid cade. Likewise, reaction time is what kills people often in zmod, for example: getting up to someone and tagging them before they can react.

Basically, on escape maps that rely solely on speed will favor faster characters. On cading maps they are quite balanced seeing as they are exceedingly fragile and cades eliminate their speed advantage to a degree.