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    The health care your getting now would change everything you're getting at the "private" sector. Hence why people in Massachusetts don't give a fuck about this health care bill to pass. We have enough issues as it is. Blue Cross Blue Shield, Cigna, Tufts, Humana, etc etc etc would severely change their coverage half of you guys would then get pissed. So yeah, I would worry. Blue Cross used to cover a ton of things. Once Massachusetts passed their own health care reform, they really cut back on what was covered. So no... your "private" health care would definitely be at stake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by loka View Post
    The health care your getting now would change everything you're getting at the "private" sector. Hence why people in Massachusetts don't give a fuck about this health care bill to pass. We have enough issues as it is. Blue Cross Blue Shield, Cigna, Tufts, Humana, etc etc etc would severely change their coverage half of you guys would then get pissed. So yeah, I would worry. Blue Cross used to cover a ton of things. Once Massachusetts passed their own health care reform, they really cut back on what was covered. So no... your "private" health care would definitely be at stake.
    well if my company decided to change its health care plan and charge more for it. people would really put into action to burn this mother fucker down lol.
    -The enemy of my enemy is my friend-

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    There is people that swear by MassHealth is the greatest free health care ever. Covers dental, medical, vision, etc. This was the result of the Health Care bill. I think perspective states should come up with their own resolve for those who aren't covered by health insurance. Problem with private health care is (this applies when I was covered with my mom) is that dental and vision was separate, and many companies do this. The state funded health covered everything and it was FREE. No co-payments. This is the hilarity of the health care in Massachusetts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by loka View Post
    There is people that swear by MassHealth is the greatest free health care ever. Covers dental, medical, vision, etc. This was the result of the Health Care bill. I think perspective states should come up with their own resolve for those who aren't covered by health insurance. Problem with private health care is (this applies when I was covered with my mom) is that dental and vision was separate, and many companies do this. The state funded health covered everything and it was FREE. No co-payments. This is the hilarity of the health care in Massachusetts.
    I have health, vision and dental all in one package.

    includes minor and major sugeries but it won't cover cosmetic surgery.

    covers ER and Urgent care as well.

    my copay is $30 and monthly cost is only $276 for a single, non smoker and in excellent health.
    -The enemy of my enemy is my friend-

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    My co-pay was 20 a visit. Pay $250 for any surgeries (since 250 is the amount it costs for admittance). Prescriptions ranged from $1-30 dollars. $100 for ER visits. All this versus MassHealth that is free.

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    Quote Originally Posted by loka View Post
    My co-pay was 20 a visit. Pay $250 for any surgeries (since 250 is the amount it costs for admittance). Prescriptions ranged from $1-30 dollars. $100 for ER visits. All this versus MassHealth that is free.
    Understood, so you save a few grand.. but you make nothing to be eligible.

    So if I spend 300 a month x 12 months that's $3600 a year. If i make $50k a year, and health insurance takes $3600, I'm still waaaaay the fuck above $14k.

    I'll stick with paying, thx

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    As a former democrat and current independent, I was kind of liking Kennedy. I like his ideas about reducing then eliminating welfare and other such government programs. Unfortunately here in MA half the single moms make their money from that system by popping out as many kids as they can before they hit 25.

    Bleh, anyhow. This election I actually didn't vote, which is a miracle for me lol. I'm sick and I got my computer parts in today so I was busy being blech and playing.

    Quote Originally Posted by loka View Post
    There is people that swear by MassHealth is the greatest free health care ever. Covers dental, medical, vision, etc. This was the result of the Health Care bill. I think perspective states should come up with their own resolve for those who aren't covered by health insurance. Problem with private health care is (this applies when I was covered with my mom) is that dental and vision was separate, and many companies do this. The state funded health covered everything and it was FREE. No co-payments. This is the hilarity of the health care in Massachusetts.
    ..dude you have to make like 14k a year as a single person with no kids to be eligible.

    I use the subsidized Mass Health Connector program and pay about 300 a month for great insurance. It's Harvard Pilgrim, which is one of the best, and has great co-pays for everything from checkups to inpatient care.

    EDIT: Oh and it comes with a basic vision plan, and my dental, while separate, costs me maybe $300 a year.
    Last edited by inthebutt; 01-19-2010 at 10:40 PM. Reason: double posting

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    Quote Originally Posted by su - root View Post
    As a former democrat and current independent, I was kind of liking Kennedy. I like his ideas about reducing then eliminating welfare and other such government programs. Unfortunately here in MA half the single moms make their money from that system by popping out as many kids as they can before they hit 25.

    Bleh, anyhow. This election I actually didn't vote, which is a miracle for me lol. I'm sick and I got my computer parts in today so I was busy being blech and playing.



    ..dude you have to make like 14k a year as a single person with no kids to be eligible.

    I use the subsidized Mass Health Connector program and pay about 300 a month for great insurance. It's Harvard Pilgrim, which is one of the best, and has great co-pays for everything from checkups to inpatient care.

    EDIT: Oh and it comes with a basic vision plan, and my dental, while separate, costs me maybe $300 a year.
    Oh people lie to get Mass Health. My dad is an accountant/CPA does taxes etc etc. Those people will lie about how much they make just to take advantage of Mass Health. It's disturbing.

    Edit: I can get Mass Health right now for being "unemployed" until my military health kicks in. My friend has Mass Health because she has a baby. Like you said unwed single moms take advantage both of welfare and Mass Health.

    Double Edit: I just checked... for coverage in Mass health standard you have to make a minimum of 6K a year single.
    Last edited by loka; 01-19-2010 at 10:48 PM.

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    I love my NYS Blue Cross and BLue Shield. I also have GHI Preferred PPO for Dental in which I don't pay for any surgeries or anything. I'm just limited to certain things. The few perks for working for the state.

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    I'm all for a majority of the reforms, since they'll most likely save me money over the long term (either in premiums or expenses). I don't like the government provided option that a lot of far left Democrats want. But I'm worried Republicans will take the small victory and over blow it, completely derailing the efforts. If that happens, it would be a great loss.

    The New York Times had a good article about the history of health care reform.

    http://finance.yahoo.com/insurance/a...et-not-unified

    It's mentioned that Ted Kennedy regretted not supporting NIXON'S (!!) attempt at health care reform because of political squabbling.

    I'm hoping Brown can learn from his predecessor's mistakes and not allow his victory be used to derail helpful changes for the sake of party ego and deprive the nation of the efficiencies the bill would add.

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