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  1. Default Admin Abuse : Dog Brother #1 <Ibis.a>

    Admin's INGAME name: Dog Brother #1 <Ibis.a>
    You're INGAME name: Envy | Ibis.a (undercover as Bayer for this demo though)

    How did he/she abuse (See TOS): Inappropriate use of powers (slapping people during a knife fight)
    I was called in by 4 regulars to watch him, and I have heard many complaints about other abuses

    Proof (Proof is NEEDED in order to report abuse, if the abuse contains admin commands and chat only a date and time is needed; however, a screen shot or console copy is helpful):

    Posting a Demo

  2. Default 2-11-2010 at 11:00am

    (ADMIN) Dog Brother #1 <ibis.a>: slayed player BaBy Chuck Norris
    (T) RoONESS MONSTA attacked a teammate
    RoONESS MONSTA killed [MC] Wake N Bake [cǿbb] with hegrenade.
    (T) BaBy Chuck Norris attacked a teammate
    RoONESS MONSTA suicided.
    (ADMIN) Dog Brother #1 <ibis.a>: slayed player RoONESS MONSTA
    Player RoONESS MONSTA will be slayed for team killing [MC] Wake N Bake [cǿbb]
    Special_K suicided.
    (ADMIN) Dog Brother #1 <ibis.a>: slayed player Special_K
    Burndin suicided.
    Player: Burndin - Damage Given
    -------------------------
    Damage Given to "Dog Brother #1 <ibis.a>" - 41 in 1 hit
    Damage Given to "[UA] Mos Def" - 110 in 1 hit
    Player: Burndin - Damage Taken
    -------------------------
    Damage Taken from "[UA] Mos Def" - 27 in 1 hit
    Damage Taken from "BaBy Chuck Norris" - 54 in 1 hit
    Damage Taken from "Go cops get the dawgs!" - 18 in 1 hit
    (ADMIN) Dog Brother #1 <ibis.a>: slayed player Burndin
    mag36 suicided.
    (ADMIN) Dog Brother #1 <ibis.a>: slayed player mag36
    t r a n c E E E suicided.
    (ADMIN) Dog Brother #1 <ibis.a>: slayed player t r a n c E E E
    {BMG} Agent Brinks suicided.
    (ADMIN) Dog Brother #1 <ibis.a>: slayed player {BMG} Agent Brinks
    «SG.Sup» Toffee suicided.
    (ADMIN) Dog Brother #1 <ibis.a>: slayed player «SG.Sup» Toffee

    Warmup round has ended
    The game will restart in 1 SECOND
    Player RoONESS MONSTA has been slayed for a previous team killing violation
    (T) BaBy Chuck Norris attacked a teammate
    -<EGN>-FrankCastle{Z} attacked a teammate
    -<EGN>-FrankCastle{Z} attacked a teammate
    -<EGN>-FrankCastle{Z} killed Go cops get the dawgs! with m249.
    «SG.Sup» Toffee killed mag36 with m249.
    «SG.Sup» Toffee is leading on level 2 :: awp
    -<EGN>-FrankCastle{Z} attacked a teammate
    (T) [UA] Mos Def attacked a teammate
    t r a n c E E E is tied with the leader on level 2
    t r a n c E E E killed [MC] Wake N Bake [cǿbb] with m249.
    БЛИН БЛИНСКИЙ connected
    [SteamBans.com] No positive match found for БЛИН БЛИНСКИЙ (STEAM_0:0:29588116).
    [SteamBans.com] No positive match found for БЛИН БЛИНСКИЙ (STEAM_0:0:29588116).
    (T) {BMG} Agent Brinks attacked a teammate
    (T) RoONESS MONSTA attacked a teammate
    [UA] Mos Def killed -<EGN>-FrankCastle{Z} with m249.
    [UA] Mos Def is tied with the leader on level 2
    (T) BaBy Chuck Norris attacked a teammate
    Dog Brother #1 <ibis.a> killed [UA] Mos Def with m249.
    Dog Brother #1 <ibis.a> is tied with the leader on level 2
    Bayer connected
    [SteamBans.com] No positive match found for Bayer (STEAM_0:1:10913788).
    [SteamBans.com] No positive match found for Bayer (STEAM_0:1:10913788).
    RoONESS MONSTA killed t r a n c E E E with m249.
    RoONESS MONSTA is tied with the leader on level 2
    Dog Brother #1 <ibis.a> killed {BMG} Agent Brinks with knife.
    Dog Brother #1 <ibis.a> is leading on level 3 :: aug
    Burndin attacked a teammate
    Burndin killed «SG.Sup» Toffee with m249.
    Burndin killed BaBy Chuck Norris with m249.
    You are 1 level behind the leader
    Burndin has lost 1 level by suicided
    Burndin suicided.
    Player: Burndin - Damage Given
    -------------------------
    Damage Given to "BaBy Chuck Norris" - 115 in 5 hits
    Damage Given to "«SG.Sup» Toffee" - 2 in 1 hit
    Player Burndin has been slayed for team killing «SG.Sup» Toffee
    Dog Brother #1 <ibis.a> killed RoONESS MONSTA with aug.
    Dog Brother #1 <ibis.a> is leading on level 4 :: sg552
    [SM] [T] Special_K agrees to knife to the death!
    [SM] [CT] Dog Brother #1 <ibis.a> agrees to knife to the death!
    [SM] Both Players Agreed! Fight to the death!
    Special_K has stolen a level from Dog Brother #1 <ibis.a>
    Special_K killed Dog Brother #1 <ibis.a> with knife.
    Bayer : lol owned
    Burndin attacked a teammate
    [MC] Wake N Bake [cǿbb] killed «SG.Sup» Toffee with m249.
    sockets connected
    Burndin killed [MC] Wake N Bake [cǿbb] with m249.
    You are 1 level behind the leader
    [SteamBans.com] No positive match found for sockets (STEAM_0:0:13970734).
    [SteamBans.com] No positive match found for sockets (STEAM_0:0:13970734).
    (T) BaBy Chuck Norris attacked a teammate
    Burndin killed mag36 with awp.
    You do not gain a level because you killed an afk
    -<EGN>-FrankCastle{Z} killed RoONESS MONSTA with m249.
    Burndin killed BaBy Chuck Norris with awp.
    Burndin is tied with the leader on level 3
    Special_K killed -<EGN>-FrankCastle{Z} with awp.
    Special_K is tied with the leader on level 3
    Killer [UA] Mos Def still has 100 hp left
    [UA] Mos Def killed Burndin with awp.
    Player: Burndin - Damage Given
    -------------------------
    Damage Given to "«SG.Sup» Toffee" - 28 in 3 hits
    Damage Given to "[MC] Wake N Bake [cǿbb]" - 115 in 5 hits
    Damage Given to "mag36" - 441 in 1 hit
    Damage Given to "BaBy Chuck Norris" - 110 in 1 hit
    Player: Burndin - Damage Taken
    -------------------------
    Damage Taken from "[MC] Wake N Bake [cǿbb]" - 94 in 1 hit
    Damage Taken from "[UA] Mos Def" - 109 in 1 hit
    [UA] Mos Def is tied with the leader on level 3
    (T) Special_K attacked a teammate
    Want ADMIN? Type !admin to find out more!
    sockets attacked a teammate
    *DEAD* [MC] Wake N Bake [cǿbb] : rank
    Yell[]wSkittle e_e connected
    PsychoStats: [MC] Wake N Bake [cǿbb] is ranked 110 of 17711, with a skill of 14671.40
    [SteamBans.com] No positive match found for Yell[]wSkittle e_e (STEAM_0:0:29202825).
    [SteamBans.com] No positive match found for Yell[]wSkittle e_e (STEAM_0:0:29202825).
    Bayer attacked a teammate
    sockets killed {BMG} Agent Brinks with m249.
    sockets attacked a teammate
    sockets killed Go cops get the dawgs! with awp.
    Special_K killed Bayer with aug.
    Special_K is leading on level 4 :: sg552
    t r a n c E E E killed [UA] Mos Def with awp.
    t r a n c E E E killed Special_K with aug.
    t r a n c E E E is tied with the leader on level 4
    *DEAD* Bayer : bah
    Dog Brother #1 <ibis.a> attacked a teammate
    sockets : sorry man
    Burndin killed RoONESS MONSTA with aug.
    Burndin is tied with the leader on level 4
    Dog Brother #1 <ibis.a> attacked a teammate
    Dog Brother #1 <ibis.a> attacked a teammate
    Dog Brother #1 <ibis.a> killed t r a n c E E E with aug.
    sockets killed Yell[]wSkittle e_e with awp.
    Dog Brother #1 <ibis.a> attacked a teammate
    Burndin killed {BMG} Agent Brinks with sg552.
    Burndin is leading on level 5 :: g3sg1
    Special_K killed -<EGN>-FrankCastle{Z} with sg552.
    Special_K is tied with the leader on level 5
    Killer BaBy Chuck Norris still has 35 hp left
    BaBy Chuck Norris killed Burndin with m249.
    Player: Burndin - Damage Given
    -------------------------
    Damage Given to "RoONESS MONSTA" - 152 in 4 hits
    Damage Given to "{BMG} Agent Brinks" - 120 in 4 hits
    Damage Given to "BaBy Chuck Norris" - 65 in 1 hit
    Player: Burndin - Damage Taken
    -------------------------
    Damage Taken from "BaBy Chuck Norris" - 121 in 5 hits
    Special_K killed Go cops get the dawgs! with g3sg1.
    Special_K is leading on level 6 :: m4a1
    [MC] Wake N Bake [cǿbb] killed «SG.Sup» Toffee with awp.
    Dog Brother #1 <ibis.a> killed Special_K with knife.
    Dog Brother #1 <ibis.a> has stolen a level from Special_K
    sockets attacked a teammate
    Dog Brother #1 <ibis.a> attacked a teammate
    Dog Brother #1 <ibis.a> killed mag36 with sg552.
    Dog Brother #1 <ibis.a> is tied with the leader on level 5
    [MC] Wake N Bake [cǿbb] killed Dog Brother #1 <ibis.a> with aug.
    [MC] Wake N Bake [cǿbb] killed Bayer with sg552.
    [MC] Wake N Bake [cǿbb] is tied with the leader on level 5
    *DEAD* Dog Brother #1 <ibis.a> : Sorry.
    [MC] Wake N Bake [cǿbb] killed sockets with g3sg1.
    [MC] Wake N Bake [cǿbb] is leading on level 6 :: m4a1
    *DEAD* Dog Brother #1 <ibis.a> : ;_;
    Player Dog Brother #1 <ibis.a> has been forgiven for team killing t r a n c E E E
    (T) [MC] Wake N Bake [cǿbb] attacked a teammate
    t r a n c E E E killed {BMG} Agent Brinks with sg552.
    «SG.Sup» Toffee killed RoONESS MONSTA with awp.
    [UA] Mos Def killed -<EGN>-FrankCastle{Z} with aug.
    [MC] Wake N Bake [cǿbb] killed t r a n c E E E with m4a1.
    [MC] Wake N Bake [cǿbb] is leading on level 7 :: sg550
    Burndin attacked a teammate
    Killer [UA] Mos Def still has 23 hp left
    [UA] Mos Def killed Burndin with sg552.
    Player: Burndin - Damage Given
    -------------------------
    Damage Given to "Special_K" - 35 in 1 hit
    Damage Given to "Go cops get the dawgs!" - 43 in 2 hits
    Damage Given to "[UA] Mos Def" - 77 in 1 hit
    Player: Burndin - Damage Taken
    -------------------------
    Damage Taken from "[MC] Wake N Bake [cǿbb]" - 25 in 1 hit
    Damage Taken from "[UA] Mos Def" - 88 in 4 hits
    Bayer attacked a teammate
    Special_K killed Go cops get the dawgs! with g3sg1.
    Bayer killed BaBy Chuck Norris with m249.
    «SG.Sup» Toffee attacked a teammate
    «SG.Sup» Toffee killed Dog Brother #1 <ibis.a> with awp.
    «SG.Sup» Toffee suicided.
    Player «SG.Sup» Toffee has been slayed for team killing Dog Brother #1 <ibis.a>
    «SG.Sup» Toffee has lost 1 level by suicided
    *DEAD* Go cops get the dawgs! : i just knife on this map
    sockets killed Special_K with aug.
    [UA] Mos Def killed Bayer with g3sg1.
    !maprate to rate this map
    denis (UA Specialist) connected
    [SteamBans.com] No positive match found for denis (UA Specialist) (STEAM_0:1:30025409).
    [SteamBans.com] No positive match found for denis (UA Specialist) (STEAM_0:1:30025409).
    sockets suicided.
    Player sockets has been slayed for team killing Go cops get the dawgs!
    sockets has lost 2 levels by suicided
    *DEAD* Go cops get the dawgs! : lol
    sockets : oh c'mon
    FoCA|Itchy connected
    [SteamBans.com] No positive match found for FoCA|Itchy (STEAM_0:1:2137064).
    [SteamBans.com] No positive match found for FoCA|Itchy (STEAM_0:1:2137064).
    Go cops get the dawgs! : gf
    A Chocobo connected
    Burndin killed BaBy Chuck Norris with g3sg1.
    You are 1 level behind the leader
    [SteamBans.com] No positive match found for A Chocobo (STEAM_0:1:29872892).
    [SteamBans.com] No positive match found for A Chocobo (STEAM_0:1:29872892).
    -<EGN>-FrankCastle{Z} killed mag36 with awp.
    Burndin attacked a teammate
    Special_K killed FoCA|Itchy with m4a1.
    Special_K is tied with the leader on level 7
    Special_K killed -<EGN>-FrankCastle{Z} with sg550.
    Special_K is leading on level 8 :: ak47
    RoONESS MONSTA killed Dog Brother #1 <ibis.a> with awp.
    t r a n c E E E killed RoONESS MONSTA with g3sg1.
    A Chocobo killed «SG.Sup» Toffee with awp.
    t r a n c E E E killed [MC] Wake N Bake [cǿbb] with m4a1.
    Bayer killed A Chocobo with awp.
    sockets killed Special_K with awp.
    Killer {BMG} Agent Brinks still has 79 hp left
    {BMG} Agent Brinks killed Burndin with m249.
    Player: Burndin - Damage Given
    -------------------------
    Damage Given to "BaBy Chuck Norris" - 249 in 1 hit
    Damage Given to "Go cops get the dawgs!" - 8 in 1 hit
    Damage Given to "A Chocobo" - 42 in 2 hits
    Damage Given to "{BMG} Agent Brinks" - 21 in 1 hit
    Player: Burndin - Damage Taken
    -------------------------
    Damage Taken from "{BMG} Agent Brinks" - 116 in 5 hits
    Go cops get the dawgs! killed denis (UA Specialist) with knife.
    Go cops get the dawgs! has stolen a level from denis (UA Specialist)
    [UA] Mos Def killed Bayer with m4a1.
    {BMG} Agent Brinks killed Go cops get the dawgs! with knife.
    {BMG} Agent Brinks has stolen a level from Go cops get the dawgs!
    Charlie connected
    [SteamBans.com] No positive match found for Charlie (STEAM_0:0:16057120).
    [SteamBans.com] No positive match found for Charlie (STEAM_0:0:16057120).
    t r a n c E E E killed [UA] Mos Def with sg550.
    t r a n c E E E is tied with the leader on level 8
    {BMG} Agent Brinks killed t r a n c E E E with aug.
    [SM] [T] {BMG} Agent Brinks agrees to knife to the death!
    (ADMIN) Dog Brother #1 <ibis.a>: slapped player sockets with 0 damage
    *DEAD* Go cops get the dawgs! : i get a kill and i get knifed lol
    [SM] [CT] sockets agrees to knife to the death!
    [SM] Both Players Agreed! Fight to the death!
    (ADMIN) Dog Brother #1 <ibis.a>: slapped player sockets with 0 damage
    (ADMIN) Dog Brother #1 <ibis.a>: slapped player sockets with 0 damage
    *DEAD* Go cops get the dawgs! : fail
    (ADMIN) Dog Brother #1 <ibis.a>: slapped player sockets with 0 damage
    (ADMIN) Dog Brother #1 <ibis.a>: slapped player sockets with 0 damage
    sockets killed {BMG} Agent Brinks with knife.

    sockets has stolen a level from {BMG} Agent Brinks
    *DEAD* «SG.Sup» Toffee jeered!!!
    *DEAD* [MC] Wake N Bake [cǿbb] jeered!!!
    *DEAD* [UA] Mos Def jeered!!!
    *DEAD* Go cops get the dawgs! jeered!!!
    sockets : lol, fuckers
    Dog Brother #1 <ibis.a> cheered!!!
    mag36 cheered!!!
    mag36 killed t r a n c E E E with m249.
    Dog Brother #1 <ibis.a> killed mag36 with g3sg1.
    A Chocobo cheered!!!
    -<EGN>-FrankCastle{Z} attacked a teammate
    RoONESS MONSTA killed «SG.Sup» Toffee with aug.
    Dog Brother #1 <ibis.a> killed BaBy Chuck Norris with m4a1.
    RoONESS MONSTA killed sockets with sg552.
    -<EGN>-FrankCastle{Z} killed RoONESS MONSTA with aug.
    [UA] Mos Def killed Dog Brother #1 <ibis.a> with sg550.
    [UA] Mos Def is tied with the leader on level 8
    FoCA|Itchy killed {BMG} Agent Brinks with aug.
    [MC] Wake N Bake [cǿbb] killed FoCA|Itchy with sg550.
    [MC] Wake N Bake [cǿbb] is tied with the leader on level 8
    Burndin killed Special_K with m4a1.
    You are 1 level behind the leader
    Killer Charlie still has 50 hp left
    Charlie killed Burndin with aug.
    Player: Burndin - Damage Given
    -------------------------
    Damage Given to "Special_K" - 169 in 4 hits
    Damage Given to "Charlie" - 50 in 1 hit
    Player: Burndin - Damage Taken
    -------------------------
    Damage Taken from "Special_K" - 54 in 2 hits
    Damage Taken from "Charlie" - 87 in 1 hit
    (T) A Chocobo attacked a teammate
    A Chocobo killed Go cops get the dawgs! with aug.
    [UA] Mos Def killed -<EGN>-FrankCastle{Z} with ak47.
    [UA] Mos Def is leading on level 9 :: scout
    denis (UA Specialist) killed Bayer with m249.
    (ADMIN) Dog Brother #1 <ibis.a>: slapped player [UA] Mos Def with 0 damage
    Love this server? Support us and type !donate to find out more!
    (ADMIN) Dog Brother #1 <ibis.a>: slapped player [UA] Mos Def with 0 damage

    (T) BaBy Chuck Norris attacked a teammate
    BaBy Chuck Norris suicided.
    Player BaBy Chuck Norris has been slayed for spawn attacking
    BaBy Chuck Norris killed RoONESS MONSTA with world.
    (T) BaBy Chuck Norris attacked a teammate
    BaBy Chuck Norris has lost 1 level by suicided
    (ADMIN) Dog Brother #1 <ibis.a>: slapped player [UA] Mos Def with 0 damage
    t r a n c E E E killed Charlie with ak47.
    t r a n c E E E is tied with the leader on level 9
    [MC] Wake N Bake [cǿbb] killed Dog Brother #1 <ibis.a> with ak47.
    [MC] Wake N Bake [cǿbb] is tied with the leader on level 9
    (T) A Chocobo attacked a teammate
    (ADMIN) Dog Brother #1 <ibis.a>: slapped player [UA] Mos Def with 0 damage
    (T) A Chocobo attacked a teammate
    A Chocobo killed [MC] Wake N Bake [cǿbb] with sg552.
    mag36 killed t r a n c E E E with awp.
    A Chocobo suicided.
    Player A Chocobo has been slayed for team killing [MC] Wake N Bake [cǿbb]
    A Chocobo has lost 2 levels by suicided
    «SG.Sup» Toffee killed mag36 with m249.
    -<EGN>-FrankCastle{Z} killed {BMG} Agent Brinks with sg552.
    (ADMIN) Dog Brother #1 <ibis.a>: slapped player [UA] Mos Def with 0 damage
    sockets killed Special_K with sg552.
    -<EGN>-FrankCastle{Z} killed [UA] Mos Def with g3sg1.
    denis (UA Specialist) killed Go cops get the dawgs! with knife.
    Bayer killed denis (UA Specialist) with aug.
    Special_K killed Dog Brother #1 <ibis.a> with ak47.
    Special_K is tied with the leader on level 9
    x0wnag3x92 connected
    [SteamBans.com] No positive match found for x0wnag3x92 (STEAM_0:1:30032902).
    [SteamBans.com] No positive match found for x0wnag3x92 (STEAM_0:1:30032902).
    -<EGN>-FrankCastle{Z} attacked a teammate
    -<EGN>-FrankCastle{Z} attacked a teammate
    mag36 killed -<EGN>-FrankCastle{Z} with aug.
    denis (UA Specialist) killed Bayer with aug.
    Burndin killed A Chocobo with sg550.
    You are 1 level behind the leader
    RoONESS MONSTA killed sockets with g3sg1.
    {BMG} Agent Brinks killed Go cops get the dawgs! with aug.
    Burndin attacked a teammate
    Burndin killed «SG.Sup» Toffee with ak47.
    FoCA|Itchy killed {BMG} Agent Brinks with knife.
    FoCA|Itchy has stolen a level from {BMG} Agent Brinks
    Player Burndin has been forgiven for team killing «SG.Sup» Toffee
    Burndin killed Charlie with ak47.
    Burndin is tied with the leader on level 9
    Killer [UA] Mos Def still has 73 hp left
    [UA] Mos Def killed Burndin with scout.
    Player: Burndin - Damage Given

    Please read the green bold writing....

  3. Default

    The slaying was just before I joined, but all the slapping is upheld in my demo.

    I'll check back to this when I get up in a few hours

  4. Default

    Hi, I registered here solely to respond to this thread. I don't have any screenshots or demoes, but i can verify what Envy has posted. Dog was repeastedly slapping players, he slayed everyone at the end of a round, and slapped two people in a knife fight. Over the mic he was threatening to ban pretty much anyone and everyone. It was pretty blatant, and franklly, disgusting. People like this give servers bad rep.

  5. Default

    this really doesn't suprise me.

    i'm loading the demo up now.

    :sits back and starts hitting "refresh":
    Quote Originally Posted by OMGBEARS
    I feel it is important for me to let you know how feeble your efforts to strike such feelings inside of me really are. I have the internal fortitude of a large animal, an elephant, for instance. Likewise, I'm the result of coitus between the devil and a pack mule made out of chainsaws, so I am extremely strong, and carry little care for others in this world. Trees also stand aside due to my chainsaw blood.
    Quote Originally Posted by ๖ReS View Post
    How am I supposed to tell you to fuck off without replying ?

  6. Default

    Once again, this is a serious section thats called admin abuse. Its for the accused admin and witnesses who were there at that time. Last but not least its for Zero who will decide on what to do in this matter .
    Last edited by -=NYS=- C.O.; 02-11-2010 at 01:45 PM.

  7. Default

    you have the console log, happened [retty much like it says there.

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    Now playing: Muse - Hoodoo
    via FoxyTunes
    Quote Originally Posted by OMGBEARS
    I feel it is important for me to let you know how feeble your efforts to strike such feelings inside of me really are. I have the internal fortitude of a large animal, an elephant, for instance. Likewise, I'm the result of coitus between the devil and a pack mule made out of chainsaws, so I am extremely strong, and carry little care for others in this world. Trees also stand aside due to my chainsaw blood.
    Quote Originally Posted by ๖ReS View Post
    How am I supposed to tell you to fuck off without replying ?

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    Yeah, I slayed everyone at the end of a round. And I slap people once in awhile. I also, haha, announced I was going to ban everyone on the server a couple times.

    Not really world-breaking stuff here, guys. Anyways, I doubt Mos Def, sockets, and Wake n Bake are offended over my actions, who were the main parties involved. Feel free to continue to nitpick.

    And Autumn, deary, you're in no place to talk about admin abuse.

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    Yes, if you wish to nitpick at the fact that I've slapped a couple people, and slayed everyone before the map was about to change, then yes, I am admin abuse incarnate.

    You're insane.

  10. Default

    The way I remember it, you slayed everyone at the end of the grenade warm-up on the gg_deagle map, not before a map change. EDIT: It's right there on the first page, from the console log burndin posted.

    From the perspective of a newcomer, when I join a server and see an admin abuse their powers and act as if they're immune from consequences, I get a little irked. You are an admin, someone designated to keep the server secure, fun to play on, and by wearing that tag you represent your community. As an admin your actions should carry more weight than a member, as you've been entrusted with the power and responsibility not given to others. You lead by example.

    And don't try to divert attention away from your complaint by focusing on some petty argument you have with someone else. Man up and accept whatever your community leader decides to hand down. Pointing fingers is childish, and I would not trust anyone who acts like that with any sort of responsibility.
    Last edited by Toffee; 02-11-2010 at 07:36 PM.

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