So it is time to start looking for the base theme for the new site. Note that regardless we will be customizing whatever we use to be very similar to how it is now and so what we are looking for is a good jumping point. The new site will integrate the website and the forums together and will make it so I can start publishing articles on the site and get some adds.

The two designs I am looking at are below they are for preview only and to show where things will be. Note that the background used in any of these will be what we use. The stuff we are going to change is going to be the icons and font color and not really anything else.
http://www.talktemplate.com/forum.php?styleid=15

http://forum-skins.com/forum/?styleid=34

So what ones do you guys like?