lychee

[tj26]

oops my bad lol i meant to say its what zero said but its not a cliff that he's summoning from its a plank 2 feet above the water and he dies before u even get summoned so no u cant counter it at all

im all about changing races maynard but i've watched him do this and does nothing but piss people off not to mention he just respawns and does it again he had a score of -13 and 20 deaths one time

[maynard]

lychee clearly is a shit head from what ive seen on the forums. seems like he takes simple pleasure in just pissing others off and being an idiot... but what he was doing is legit by zero's rule. I don't like the rule that allows him to do what he's doing... but the rule does exist, it's zero's rule... he and 1 other admin were all for and it's always existed...

you can take it up with zero if you want but it more then likely wont get ya anywhere.

[tj26]

well hopefully zero will see this thread than huh lol
he always trys to claim the title of most hated but what ever he's just some kid that i mute through the player list just so i dont have to hear him

btw
cliff-water-puppies-kittens-elephant-dirt

just are not the same things

[Rapedollar$]

personally, if he is doing it simply to piss people off, i say we get rid of him. all he is doing is lowering the quality of the server and causing our players grief.

with zero's rule, cliffs have many more "exit strategies" than the insta kill water. i would agree to changing the rule to exclude instant deaths where there is no way to save yourself with skillful play and quick reactions.

just my opinion.

[maynard]

we were playing on port when the issue came up like 6 months ago. he's well aware of the water aspect. but why is a cliff so special? cause there's about 6 races that can prevent there death out of 38 races?

there's really no difference. the fact is zero was talking about eye ra dropping people to there deaths in general, not just on cliffs. and only a few of the races could do anything to prevent it to begin with... so I don't get why you guys are all ok for cliffs but not water.... does those like 6 races that could prevent the death really make it ok then.. evne though we have like 38 races over all? I don't see your guys argument... as where I already admited I don't personally like the rule...

[tj26]

well my biggest complaint is u dont actually fall im sure your aware of how its done but to the rest of the people.... u go eye ra > summon wait 2 seconds or so (because you have to be alive otherwise the summon cancels i believe) > jump in water > they get summoned > u die immediately when they get there (so they cant even kill you) > they die no one gains anything


so lets go and average of 2 minute rounds and assuming map is extended map lasts 30 minutes so thats 15 rounds which means you do that to 15 people + you respawn probably 10 times or so (some times you dont have enough money so not 15) so your killing 25 people or so and just wasting peoples time why even plain because you yourself dont even gain anything

o and forgot to add you basically are stuck in my opinion which can be lead back to getting stuck in the vents abstractly except in this case it kills you for you but when your in vents you have to type kill in console

[loka]

Because not everyone is high level and wastes countless hours on WCS. Some people are still the basic starting classes, and as rape has mentioned and I have the same sentiment; it is NOTHING else but causing grief to other players and gets old.

[maynard]

ive been summoned into the water many a time, and ive always been able to lay down my wards down before my death 2 kill the person who summoned me.

not sure why it's so much a challenge for other people. if you can get zero 2 change his mind, grats ill be beyond surprised lol... ive seen zero change 1 thing based on complaints my entire time in WCS... I doubt this will be his second... more so cause it's a rule he likes.

but if it's gonna be that no summoning over water then it should also be no dropping people to there deaths at all... cause regardless of you people having trouble with the water issue, it's very possible and actually easy 2 lay your wards before you die.

Because not everyone is high level and wastes countless hours on WCS. Some people are still the basic starting classes, and as rape has mentioned and I have the same sentiment; it is NOTHING else but causing grief to other players and gets old.

yes, and shadow hunter is a basic starting class, you need very few lvls 2 get it. it's also the class that kills eye ras best when summoned...

like I said before, if people don't bitch about this, they will find other things 2 cry about constantly. if they don't like WCS, then they can move on and find a new server.

[loka]

No, this is all personal preference like the whole fast zombie debate on escape maps. The admin has always determined what they see fit and what they feel is unfair. If ZERO wants to overturn a ban like he has many times then he can. Problem is your talking about warding when I bet you half the people who have complained or mentioned this are not high leveled enough to ward.

Maynard, the problem is your higher leveled and have played on the WCS server since it started, so it's no issue for you. It is however an unfair advantage to others, and considering the already massive pile of crap rules that were laid out in ZM to appease to people of all skills, this really is no different. Also, considering lychee past behavior would constitute this more as griefing, and I DO take into consideration what has been tacked in the past whether or not you play by the rules or not.

[Tickle Me Emo]

Maynard, it seems like you're missing a post. Maybe not, but here it is anyways:

well my biggest complaint is u dont actually fall im sure your aware of how its done but to the rest of the people.... u go eye ra > summon wait 2 seconds or so (because you have to be alive otherwise the summon cancels i believe) > jump in water > they get summoned > u die immediately when they get there (so they cant even kill you) > they die no one gains anything


so lets go and average of 2 minute rounds and assuming map is extended map lasts 30 minutes so thats 15 rounds which means you do that to 15 people + you respawn probably 10 times or so (some times you dont have enough money so not 15) so your killing 25 people or so and just wasting peoples time why even plain because you yourself dont even gain anything

o and forgot to add you basically are stuck in my opinion which can be lead back to getting stuck in the vents abstractly except in this case it kills you for you but when your in vents you have to type kill in console

I've never been around to see Lychee do this, but I don't see how it can be interpreted as anything but intentional griefing. There is no counter - you cannot ward a dead person! Why would we allow this? I'd really like to hear ZERO weigh in on this specific case, since it's his rule.