Health Care Reform

[OMGBEARS]

The fact that people quote a commentary show that even has declared many times that it is not a news show and then cry about how it is not reporting the news like a news show only proves how ignorant people will be in order to prove a point. This is like when today I read a work called feeding frenzy about the media in politics. Sure the work had some good points but I was loling on the ground when the analogy was about the kayos of when sharks are on a feeding frenzy. Clearly this person does not know that sharks are actually very orderly when they are going to get a free meal. Now while this does not affect his other statements it does make him look a bit stupid. The point is that if you say something you should at least try to check if it is actually true.

Glen beck was also on CNN for a few years where he ran his show much the same way yet where are the clips clamming that headline news does not report the news becuase of his cometary show.

I guess that ABC does not report the news either becuase they also run the View. I guess there is no such thing as news because there is always some show on a given station where it is just commentary on the news but not actual reporting of it.

My point by even bringing up Glen Beck is the fact that Spray wasn't actually making any points and was simply sensationalizing his point in order to make it seem valid.

Glen Beck is just one of many reasons why the Bulk of Fox News is a complete joke in terms of being "fair and balanced" if you want to really get into that whole discussion. That's another thread, though.

[Curdy]

Also if they have stated they are not a news outlet, they should stop acting like a news outlet.

It reminds me of faux news and their mass effect coverage.

which was utterly retarded.

[loka]

Look at it this way. Larry King is not a NEWS show. It's a journalist interviewing people spewing out their own ideas or happenings in the world. NBC had that terrible "To Catch A Predator" 'news' show that featured an investigative reporter. That isn't a NEWS show.

There is different types of journalists and reporters. The shows within CNN, NBC, FOX, CBS, ABC, and the other American news outlets have the right to exist. They are shows that have some interesting stories and articles. Then you have shows like Rush Limbaugh, Glen Beck, Hannity, O'Reilly, etc that appeal to certain pom pom waving one party lunatics who take on all news issues and distort them into their own opinions and views. These are political satire shows and are NEVER to be taken verbatim as I already had mentioned. They don't need a "warning not literal news content" label on them. It's clear cut throat common sense it's one person taking their own view on news stories. It just so happens their shows are on a news network.

[XxMastagunzxX]

Look at it this way. Larry King is not a NEWS show. It's a journalist interviewing people spewing out their own ideas or happenings in the world. NBC had that terrible "To Catch A Predator" 'news' show that featured an investigative reporter. That isn't a NEWS show.

There is different types of journalists and reporters. The shows within CNN, NBC, FOX, CBS, ABC, and the other American news outlets have the right to exist. They are shows that have some interesting stories and articles. Then you have shows like Rush Limbaugh, Glen Beck, Hannity, O'Reilly, etc that appeal to certain pom pom waving one party lunatics who take on all news issues and distort them into their own opinions and views. These are political satire shows and are NEVER to be taken verbatim as I already had mentioned. They don't need a "warning not literal news content" label on them. It's clear cut throat common sense it's one person taking their own view on news stories. It just so happens their shows are on a news network.

Yeah but that show was hilarious!!!

[Spasm]

Didn't someone kill themselves because of to catch a predator lol

[loka]

It also falsely accused innocent people, or prevented those who were indeed actual sex offenders from going to jail because of entrapment and other legal disputes. That show ruined lives and let some serious sex offenders go free.

[acolyte_to_jippity]

they might have gone free, but remember loka, why shows like America's Most Wanted (my fav. show btw, John Walsh is my hero. I'd vote for him any day) exist/are popular. Their faces, voices, everything is now out there on national TV. Sex offenders are safe when they're unknown. now, however, everyone'll know them as "That guy who was on that show. He's the one who and walked in the door completely naked holding a 6-pack of beer and tied a bow to his cock for the (what he thought was a) 14-year old to suck off"

their lives are over, even if they're not in jail.

[loka]

AMW works with law enforcement agencies and a hot-line is involved. Totally different legal ramifications. TCAP was enforcing the law into their own hands without law enforcement help. They eventually got enforcement if it was a sex offender who was a level 3 sex offender. Even then, what they did is entrapment. It's why law enforcement hates, HATES groups that act like children on the internet and forward the internet conversations to local police department (which is what TCAP was doing). It misconstrues the entire legal system to allow a good lawyer to scream entrapment and other poisonous fruit bullshit which you cannot do in law enforcement. It's why TCAP is no longer on the air. NBC didn't see the legal suits that could follow this until they actually saw the shows content.

[acolyte_to_jippity]

i'm not saying it's a good thing these people are on the street still...far from it. i'd have been waiting w/ a sawed off and capped their knees or something (higher perhaps) and leave. but if you saw someone on that show, and then they moved in next door to you...how much do you think they could get away with?

[loka]

Statistically speaking. Most sex offenders are level ones. I probably live next to one and I will never know because his crime was public urination. The sex offender laws are new and are not in code with the legal system we have. That said, you take matters into your own hands on a sex offender, you go to jail, and the sex offender collects victim compensation from you. That's the way the legal system works. You would also know if a sex offender lived next door to you because they have to register. If they don't they get arrested. There is no reason for taking matters into your own hands or using unprofessional shows like TCAP as a guideline to see if you can catch a pervert. These guys are already registered. Leave the catching sex offenders to law enforcement. Chris Hansen was an idiot for the idea.