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  1. Default Fun with graphs!

    So here we go again, it is time to look at some funny graphs that make us question the way that we think about "facts" or "truths" that the media throws at us every day!

    FYI I just realized that firefox 3 allows me to click and drag images like this from one tab to the next! That is really cool. On another note, hydrogen cars are to replace the current tech b/c they are good for the environment but wait last time I checked their emission was water vapor...

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    The Important Greenhouse Gases (except water vapor)
    U.S. Department of Energy, (October, 2000) (1)
    (all concentrations expressed in parts per billion) Pre-industrial baseline Natural additions Man-made additions Total (ppb) Concentration Percent of Total Carbon Dioxide (CO2) 288,000 68,520 11,880 368,400 99.438% Methane (CH4) 848 577 320 1,745 0.471% Nitrous Oxide (N2O) 285 12 15 312 0.084% Misc. gases ( CFC's, etc.) 25 0 2 27 0.007% Total 289,158 69,109 12,217 370,484 100.00%

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    Lets break it down:

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    Earth is heating up lately, but so are Mars, Pluto and other worlds in our solar system, leading some scientists to speculate that a change in the sun’s activity is the common thread linking all these baking events.

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    Here I have some graphs and articles that mean something. (probably the only source you'll need) (Nice little picture at the bottom with a slider that you can move to show how the ice has been melting over the past 4 years) (statistical analysis of warming now compared to millions of years ago)

    I'd give more, but I don't feel like it. This is only the tip of the ice berg when you research climate change or global warming or whatever you want to call it. It is real and we are mostly to blame for it. Denial of this fact is tantamount to denying evolution's progress on this planet's biosphere as a whole. If you don't believe anything I'm typing, I don't care. The data is readily available, all you have to do is look.

    Had to add this one to refute Zero's sun activity deal:
    Last edited by dutch; 07-07-2008 at 08:21 PM.

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    Thank you dutch, i had thought about doing my own research and posting just like you did but i was to lazy. I fully believe that global warming exists, and it terrifies me that there are still a lot of people out there that don't.

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    My balls are globally warming too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by -=NYS=- C.O. View Post
    My balls are globally warming too.
    You mean "Global Warm DEES NUTS"

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    Wouldn't Hydrogen driven cars be more of a solution to High gas prices than polution?

    I mean....look at all the electricty it involves to make it....look at what is burned/made to create electicity.....

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    Actually no as the tech is still not advanced to help the economy in the next 20 years. Also a big part is the fact that we burn oil to make electricity. This is why it is so important for us to further develop nuclear in the long run.

    On another note, has anyone ever thought of the real impact of moving away from the current tech that cars use...

    Think about it, yes it will be much much cheaper to drive but what industries will suffer as a result? The "evil" oil companies or other industries that provide thousands of jobs to hard working Americans?

    What do you do if you want a faster car? Well today there are thousands of companies making products that will do just that. If all the cars were electric how many turbos and super chargers could people use... NONE. What abut new exhaust, intakes, computers, throttle bodies? American businesses make all of these parts they install these parts locally they higher professionals to design them. Think of car stereo systems, it may seem logical that they would be easy on an electric engine but they will eat too much power. On a normal car you just add more alternators. On a hydrogen car you would need more fuel cells and something tells me that such a thing costs a crap load more money. On top of that it would significantly reduce the range of your car. Current cars millage is not really effected by the addition of an alternator.

    I could go on, but the point is that any major paradise shift has MANNY unintended consequences that must be investigated before action is taken and that there is no single thing that we can 100% move to that will not adversely effect us.

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