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  1. Default Fun with graphs!

    So here we go again, it is time to look at some funny graphs that make us question the way that we think about "facts" or "truths" that the media throws at us every day!




    FYI I just realized that firefox 3 allows me to click and drag images like this from one tab to the next! That is really cool. On another note, hydrogen cars are to replace the current tech b/c they are good for the environment but wait last time I checked their emission was water vapor...



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    The Important Greenhouse Gases (except water vapor)
    U.S. Department of Energy, (October, 2000) (1)
    (all concentrations expressed in parts per billion) Pre-industrial baseline Natural additions Man-made additions Total (ppb) Concentration Percent of Total Carbon Dioxide (CO2) 288,000 68,520 11,880 368,400 99.438% Methane (CH4) 848 577 320 1,745 0.471% Nitrous Oxide (N2O) 285 12 15 312 0.084% Misc. gases ( CFC's, etc.) 25 0 2 27 0.007% Total 289,158 69,109 12,217 370,484 100.00%



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    Lets break it down:



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    http://www.livescience.com/environme...s_warming.html

    Earth is heating up lately, but so are Mars, Pluto and other worlds in our solar system, leading some scientists to speculate that a change in the sun’s activity is the common thread linking all these baking events.



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    Here I have some graphs and articles that mean something.

    http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/globalwarming.html (probably the only source you'll need)
    http://www.climatescience.gov/
    http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/cru/data/temperature/
    http://stats.org/stories/2008/global..._apr23_08.html
    http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/s...nyt-classifier (Nice little picture at the bottom with a slider that you can move to show how the ice has been melting over the past 4 years)
    http://www.ipcc.ch/pdf/assessment-re...1-chapter6.pdf (statistical analysis of warming now compared to millions of years ago)

    I'd give more, but I don't feel like it. This is only the tip of the ice berg when you research climate change or global warming or whatever you want to call it. It is real and we are mostly to blame for it. Denial of this fact is tantamount to denying evolution's progress on this planet's biosphere as a whole. If you don't believe anything I'm typing, I don't care. The data is readily available, all you have to do is look.

    Had to add this one to refute Zero's sun activity deal:
    http://www.oar.noaa.gov/spotlite/arc...unclimate.html
    http://www.mpa-garching.mpg.de/mpa/r...006-9b-en.html
    http://solar-center.stanford.edu/sun...glob-warm.html
    Last edited by dutch; 07-07-2008 at 08:21 PM.

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    Thank you dutch, i had thought about doing my own research and posting just like you did but i was to lazy. I fully believe that global warming exists, and it terrifies me that there are still a lot of people out there that don't.
    -MBP

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    Climate change being blamed on hydrocarbon use is pure politics. Carbon Dioxide does not exert enough warming power to be causing the increases. If it did, the temperature differences in the southern hemisphere (where they are closer to the sun in the summer and farther in the winter) would be more drastic as time went on. Instead, they move on par.

    http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/img/climate...r4-fig-3-6.gif

    The warming we're experiencing is more likely caused by deforestation. Trees grow by taking advantage of the temperature difference between the ground and air, thus removing heat from the air in the warmer months and even increasing the temperature of the air in the colder months. Now, imagine billions of trees slowly disappearing over the course of two hundred years, not being replaced, each removing 0.00001 degrees from the local air and you'll see how it compounds.

    http://www.globalchange.umich.edu/gl.../deforest.html

    On top of this, they also believe the loss of forests causes air humidity to rise from sea level faster, allowing more water vapor into the upper atmosphere and trapping more heat beneath.

    Why isn't this issue pushed? Because it would take centuries to fix and humanity tends to be very short-sighted.

    Oh, and CUDA's awsome. Wish I didn't buy these ATI 3850s. Damn my short-sightedness.

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    Yea, It can cut down encoding time by 1/10'th. Waiting on the new driver set, wanna fool around with the added in hardware physics that are finally going to be enabled. Cant wait till they actually start rolling out applications that take advantage of the proccesing power that CUDA brings. There rediculously fast!

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    I agree that the trees play a role but the fact is that the current trend is very clearly shown to be caused by the sun with an error of only a few percent. The current trend is thus a direct result of more energy being released upon the earth and at the same time a reduction in could formation as a result of increases in solar wind. In other words trees are currently playing virtually no role in present worming trends, possibly even less of a role than humans. Also the largest source of plant life is in the ocean, if you were to remove every tree of the earth we would be fine just as long as you left the oceans alone. The gas output from the ocean vs trees alone is like the difference between the size of Luxembourg and the sun. Also remember that another problem with global warming is that the earth has cool for almost 10 years. I should also note that the temp readings taken are mostly from land only and rarely include much of the oceans where the majority of the earth's surface is. In addition to this, many official US temp record locations have been found to be in major code violation and thus are totally useless. (who would have thought that if you put a temp sensor next to an air conditioner it might be a bit hotter all of a sudden)

    Last edited by ZERO; 08-14-2008 at 12:20 AM.



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