{remove] aim_texture_jungle

[maynard]

I don't hate the map, It just doesn't belong on WCS.

[Rawr]

I have changed it to that map, but not ever without a 2/3 majority vote. It has been played 3 times in 3 weeks. I see no reason why you can't spice up the map list with a giggle map once a week, it isn't going to change the game, and lots of people have a great time. At no point have I ever seen no objectives be a problem. Also jungle is significantly bigger than crackhouse everyone else's favorite terrible map.

[acolyte_to_jippity]

I have changed it to that map, but not ever without a 2/3 majority vote. It has been played 3 times in 3 weeks. I see no reason why you can't spice up the map list with a giggle map once a week, it isn't going to change the game, and lots of people have a great time. At no point have I ever seen no objectives be a problem. Also jungle is significantly bigger than crackhouse everyone else's favorite terrible map.

ummm, no?

not even close

[Christmas]

Even as a person who doesn't mind small maps every so often, texture_jungle takes the cake for horrible WCS maps.

Too many people ward spawn without thinking about it, nade spam spawn without thinking, and simply bum rush with races like eva, jack, vaga, etc. and make the game unbearable for most players.

It should be removed.

[maynard]

I have changed it to that map, but not ever without a 2/3 majority vote. It has been played 3 times in 3 weeks. I see no reason why you can't spice up the map list with a giggle map once a week, it isn't going to change the game, and lots of people have a great time. At no point have I ever seen no objectives be a problem. Also jungle is significantly bigger than crackhouse everyone else's favorite terrible map.

if you want 2 change up the map rotation, it's fine.... that's not what this is about, what this is about is switching it to maps that offer fast xp and money. and ofcourse ppl want 2 play on those maps, they don't want 2 actually work for there lvl's lol.... you getting 2/3 vote for a map that ppl know will cash out well for them doesn't surprise me....

if ppl want 2 play on diff maps that's fine, but they need 2 be proper WCS maps. maps that are balanced for the mod, have a objective, and aren't uber small. as I said, these maps have never been selected or played before until the new admins like yourself came around, all admins in the past could look at the obvious fact that these maps aren't obviously designed for WCS.

[acolyte_to_jippity]

and for the record, votes like "change to aim_texture_jungle: 1) yes, 2) no" are hardly fair votes. there are way too many 1-spammers in the world.

i know when i own my own servers, i'll randomly put up a vote that says "think carefully: 1) ban me, 2) let me stay, 3) hello, 4) goodby"

anyone who votes yes will get a 4-day ban

[Rawr]

i know when i own my own servers, i'll randomly put up a vote that says "think carefully: 1) ban me, 2) let me stay, 3) hello, 4) goodby"

anyone who votes yes will get a 4-day ban

While that is a spectacular way to have nobody play on your servers, I'm not sure it's going to have the effect you want. Especially since I've voted 1 2 or 3 on accident probably about 50 times by switching weapons when the vote came up.

If the problem you are worried about is too much exp for people then you're out of control. One map every once in awhile that may be 25% faster than other maps isn't going to change the world.

If your problem is making people unhappy, then I have to say that I had just as many people playing before and after that map every time I switched.

Other than that I'm not sure what the problem is except a few of you just don't like the map and want to impose your rule to make sure everything is your way. If you can get away with it, more power to you, until then, I'll do as I please.

[maynard]

While that is a spectacular way to have nobody play on your servers, I'm not sure it's going to have the effect you want. Especially since I've voted 1 2 or 3 on accident probably about 50 times by switching weapons when the vote came up.

If the problem you are worried about is too much exp for people then you're out of control. One map every once in awhile that may be 25% faster than other maps isn't going to change the world.

If your problem is making people unhappy, then I have to say that I had just as many people playing before and after that map every time I switched.

Other than that I'm not sure what the problem is except a few of you just don't like the map and want to impose your rule to make sure everything is your way. If you can get away with it, more power to you, until then, I'll do as I please.

1. the server population is always at it's highest when we play original maps.

2. what I'm worried about is the fact it's not balanced, I'm pretty sure that I explained that 2 you in the prior msg...

3 I understand you think you know everything with your 3 weeks of play time on WCS, but it might be best 2 not act on ignorance and ego... doesn't really accomplish much. I'm sorry you're threatend by the fact ive been playing on WCS since the start, and do nothing but make sure it stays regulated and balanced... but I have what's best for the server at heart, and will continue to do so. everything I do for WCS, I do for WCS, not my own personal gain. the main problem with the map you're trying 2 defend is that it's incredibly small, and the enemy can literally be in the other teams spawn in less then 1 second, that's just silly and that aside there's no objective.

also jungle gives out farrrrr more then 25% xp then normal Lol.

and the only people unhappy are yourself and mikey.

also I believe in a prior msg I even said that I like the texture/jungle map, it's fun, and I enjoy it, shit... ice world is 1 of my all time favs.. but the fact of the matter is, they don't belong on WCS, cause they make shit unbalanced.

[Rawr]

There are tons of imbalances in WCS. It may be possible to balance the game entirely, but it would require a large amount of time and effort and reprogramming that I don't think anybody is willing to do when it's close enough.

Yes, you can be in the spawn in a second. I can't count the amount of times people have gotten into my spawn before I'm 5 meters away from it. Spiderman, strider, bugged santa, chameleon, warden, good vagas, all can do this in many of our maps, even the vanilla ones. Overall I don't get why get rid of maps when they have no significant impact on the game and are very rarely played.

PS being here longer doesn't make you better than others nor does me being relatively new make me ignorant. I get your used to what you say being followed and you're the leading authority on WCS rules and people should follow what you say in that regard; that power doesn't extend beyond that.