State of WCS

[ZERO]

So as you all know when the beta goes live the WCS server is going to die. This is becuase the entire mod is not compatible with the new engine becuase it requires ES_tools to work which will very likely not be updated. As a result we have the following options with regard to the wcs server:

1. Remove WCS
2. Run another version that only allows 3 abilities and 1 ultimate per race
3. Pray that es_tools is updated
4. cry
5. Develop out own wcs mod from scratch
6. Reprogram all races and current WCS code to work without es_tools
7. Pay off developer of war3 to allow for more than 3 abilities and 1 ultimate so we can just use that.

This list is organized from what I believe to be least likely to most likely options for dealing with this problem. Note that everything below option 4 will require large investments as I can not program that amount of data on my own.

Personally I think the best option is to get the developers of war3 source to allow for the variety of abilities that our current wcs server supports. This way when we convert everything over not only do we get something that works on the new engine but also becuase it is running on sourcemod it will not lag or crash!

I want to know what all of your thoughts are on this issue. This week I plan to really crack down on finding a solution to this impending update of doom.

[maynard]

well I'm quite sad 2 hear we're gonna lose WCS and all that many have put into it for the past year, but at least we will get WCS back.

- how long do you figure we wont have WCS

- when does the beta go live again?

[*]Reprogram all races and current WCS code to work without es_tools

so when it's reprogrammed, will we have the existing races and get 2 keep our lvls? or will it be new races and starting over again?

[ZERO]

Yea, also if we switch to war3 our levels will convert.

[maynard]

very nice.

[XX0wnsXY]

I dont wanna lose wcs for any extended period. if we only have 3 abilities for a short time until other alternatives arise, id be ok with that. it may add some interesting dynamics to wcs lol.

[maynard]

well my main concern was starting all over from scratch. if we had 2 start all over with new races, and then figure them all out again and make new rules based on the new classes again, that would be kind of a pain. not fully cause it's just a long drawn out process, but cause it would also mean everything zero, myself, all the admins and regulars had done in the last year would have been completly pointless. wouldn't be horrible, but I love what we got <3. I'm real glad that we get 2 keep everything the same.

[Jeimuzu]

This was destined to happen when Maynard wished ill upon ZM..

Just sayin'.. <.<''

[Wolfenstinger]

Well.... BRB gonna go pick cry


But yea, if we end up restarting, a lot of people will be upset at that. A temporary conversion to keep our levels but limit our abilities and still have one ultimate will kill some classes in the process but still allows us to progress, if this is what I am understanding.

Solution (from my point of view on that...) : we make a that updates es_tools for us with holy pow-ah! Ok now I'm just letting my imagination run loose... umm... *starts praying*

[Kavinsky]

Jippy I did play wcs twice, once with mag and didnt care for it.

I'm wondering when its going to happen because its going to screw up the shooting tecniques for atleast the desert eagle and the ak 47.

the online hit detections going to be modified and there going to tf2 it, it seems. hence why I want to know when so I can enjoy gg before judging by all the past accounts of there updates this year they fuck us over and god help us if they apply the new tf2 menu to css.

[Schnacky]

So as you all know when the beta goes live the WCS server is going to die. This is becuase the entire mod is not compatible with the new engine becuase it requires ES_tools to work which will very likely not be updated. As a result we have the following options with regard to the wcs server:

1. Remove WCS
2. Run another version that only allows 3 abilities and 1 ultimate per race
3. Pray that es_tools is updated
4. cry
5. Develop out own wcs mod from scratch
6. Reprogram all races and current WCS code to work without es_tools
7. Pay off developer of war3 to allow for more than 3 abilities and 1 ultimate so we can just use that.

This list is organized from what I believe to be least likely to most likely options for dealing with this problem. Note that everything below option 4 will require large investments as I can not program that amount of data on my own.

Personally I think the best option is to get the developers of war3 source to allow for the variety of abilities that our current wcs server supports. This way when we convert everything over not only do we get something that works on the new engine but also becuase it is running on sourcemod it will not lag or crash!

I want to know what all of your thoughts are on this issue. This week I plan to really crack down on finding a solution to this impending update of doom.

I like 2,3,5,6,7