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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluffy Frufflebottoms View Post
    I have to say that it's a pretty extraordinary coincidence to somehow end up with the same IP address as the one assigned to the person you supposedly aren't.
    Yeah I guess that must be it, then it would also mean that I am this Steez Mgeez person as well, and I have another 50 something Steam accounts, and hundreds of different IP addresses.

    http://www.ibisgaming.com/gg_stats/i...7.82&submit=go

    So it means we might have the same ISP which isn't outrageous because cable companies stretch multiple states, it is also a dynamic IP address. And how about the hundreds of unknown addresses? Hell any one of you could have had the same IP address at one point. So yes it is an extraordinary coincidence.

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    Look at it from our side.
    multiple accounts, that have been banned
    multiple IP addresses and ISPs
    your name (NIX) on said accounts.
    and your incredible but somewhat questionable skill on the game.

    Now if you were us, what would you do?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Perry View Post
    Look at it from our side.
    multiple accounts, that have been banned - No proof that there are multiple accounts, just an assumption.

    multiple IP addresses and ISPs - See links below. You look rather suspicious yourself Perry, I mean just look at all those IP addresses, you must have been banned at least once.

    your name (NIX) on said accounts. - Not sure what to tell you here, I kind of have a thing for greek mythology, it's been Nyx before (try google, don't forget all the other names you and others have used and not just on Ibis servers), and others before that but oh wait, I just didn't log on to your server with those other names. It's also a word in a couple of other languages. Basically shoddy, circumstantial evidence that just happens to be convenient.

    and your incredible but somewhat questionable skill on the game. - Is it really that incredible? I don't compete in any tournaments but I can say that they are rather incredible themselves so I guess that would mean they are probably cheating too in your book.

    Now if you were us, what would you do? - Put my foot in my mouth.
    http://www.ibisgaming.com/gg_stats/player.php?id=70900
    http://www.ibisgaming.com/gg_stats/player.php?id=132347
    http://www.ibisgaming.com/gg_stats/player.php?id=61849

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    IP bans are useless with dynamic IPs, but have fun with it because it won't affect me.

    If I had not said anything about it you all would have jumped to the same conclusions. So really it is just a catch .22 for me. (Try google again for this). And of course now someone will most likely say, "no we wouldn't" w/e.

    The player links I used were just a couple I clicked on that were on the first page of my people killed, except for perry's. I was merely using them as an example of multiple names and IP addresses.

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    WOW all i have to say TO ALL OF YOU GUYS calm the fuck down with the flaming, the problem that happened is over and down with and if we catch ReSin in a demo hacking she will be gone its that simple now close this thread we dont need people flaming on the forums


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    Quote Originally Posted by Joker View Post
    WOW all i have to say TO ALL OF YOU GUYS calm the fuck down with the flaming, the problem that happened is over and down with and if we catch ReSin in a demo hacking she will be gone its that simple now close this thread we dont need people flaming on the forums

    Done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ReSin View Post
    Yeah I guess that must be it, then it would also mean that I am this Steez Mgeez person as well, and I have another 50 something Steam accounts, and hundreds of different IP addresses.

    http://www.ibisgaming.com/gg_stats/i...7.82&submit=go

    So it means we might have the same ISP which isn't outrageous because cable companies stretch multiple states, it is also a dynamic IP address. And how about the hundreds of unknown addresses? Hell any one of you could have had the same IP address at one point. So yes it is an extraordinary coincidence.
    I've seen Steez Mgeez' page before, and it looks more like a bug in the statistics system than anything else. That might also be an issue affecting you in this case, however peculiar that might be, and that's why I'm not telling you that you're lying.

    Regarding the addresses, however, you should know that individual subnets are almost exclusively assigned on a per-CM basis by cable providers for routing purposes. That means that in order for two separate cable modems to be assigned the same public IP address, they would in all likelihood have to be connected in the same neighbourhood.

    Having had only one IP address registered on both accounts, with the exception of a handful of connections from a different address on the Nix account, also suggests that the leases are only part-dynamic, and that the authoritative DHCP server performs an ISC-style delegation based on previous leases, making it very unlikely that you would ever acquire the same address, and unimaginably unlikely that you would defy the odds of address delegation, and somehow live in the same neighbourhood as someone who previously played on this server, and somehow also end up playing GunGame on the same server, and somehow also ending up attracting the attention of admins due to the way in which you play the game.

    I'm not telling you who you are and who you aren't. I haven't even accused you of anything. You don't need to reply to my posts with an attitude.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluffy Frufflebottoms View Post
    I've seen Steez Mgeez' page before, and it looks more like a bug in the statistics system than anything else. That might also be an issue affecting you in this case, however peculiar that might be, and that's why I'm not telling you that you're lying.

    Regarding the addresses, however, you should know that individual subnets are almost exclusively assigned on a per-CM basis by cable providers for routing purposes. That means that in order for two separate cable modems to be assigned the same public IP address, they would in all likelihood have to be connected in the same neighbourhood.

    Having had only one IP address registered on both accounts, with the exception of a handful of connections from a different address on the Nix account, also suggests that the leases are only part-dynamic, and that the authoritative DHCP server performs an ISC-style delegation based on previous leases, making it very unlikely that you would ever acquire the same address, and unimaginably unlikely that you would defy the odds of address delegation, and somehow live in the same neighbourhood as someone who previously played on this server, and somehow also end up playing GunGame on the same server, and somehow also ending up attracting the attention of admins due to the way in which you play the game.

    I'm not telling you who you are and who you aren't. I haven't even accused you of anything. You don't need to reply to my posts with an attitude.
    I apologize for the attitude, just with all the Perry's and that other guy throwing shit around gets me a bit peeved, I don't like it when people try to gang up on me and try to blame me for something I don't have anything to do with.

    Yes I do know what you are saying about the IP addresses, however I don't have to live in the same neighborhood as this other person. I could live in the same city, same county, same state, or in a state next to theirs. I myself wouldn't say that almost 600 other connections of unknown addresses is a handful, they could have been using a proxy or a number of other methods to mess with things, or since pretty much everyone has at least a few hundred unknown addresses, it's possible that they connected with anywhere from 1 to 6 or 7 different IPs that were unable to be logged for whatever reason.

    I have played and do play on many other servers, so I don't exclusively play on just this one. There are also a lot of other players that as good and better than me. I've run into quite a lot of them.

    Jesus titty fucking christ,

    you on the rag much bitch? I put up possible reasons as to why you were banned. Look at my IP adresses, all originating from the same wireless router. My old router was dying and required me to restart it 3 times a day. I was banned on here once for racism (called alex a nigger) and that was over 6 months ago. You have 2 accounts, one that is VAC Banned and your current one. That along with your "incredible" skill tends to stick me a suspicious. Get off your high fucking ovulationg horse and just shut your mouth. You won. unbanned and ready to get caught again on the servers.
    Calm down there cowboy. You and whatever the hell his name is are the two that are throwing accusations and making claims that can't be backed up with evidence. And I will just say this, you can't prove that all those addresses you had were all from the same modem, the data just isn't there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ReSin View Post
    I apologize for the attitude, just with all the Perry's and that other guy throwing shit around gets me a bit peeved, I don't like it when people try to gang up on me and try to blame me for something I don't have anything to do with.

    Yes I do know what you are saying about the IP addresses, however I don't have to live in the same neighborhood as this other person. I could live in the same city, same county, same state, or in a state next to theirs. I myself wouldn't say that almost 600 other connections of unknown addresses is a handful, they could have been using a proxy or a number of other methods to mess with things, or since pretty much everyone has at least a few hundred unknown addresses, it's possible that they connected with anywhere from 1 to 6 or 7 different IPs that were unable to be logged for whatever reason.

    I have played and do play on many other servers, so I don't exclusively play on just this one. There are also a lot of other players that as good and better than me. I've run into quite a lot of them.



    Calm down there cowboy. You and whatever the hell his name is are the two that are throwing accusations and making claims that can't be backed up with evidence. And I will just say this, you can't prove that all those addresses you had were all from the same modem, the data just isn't there.
    ReSin... I know we can't prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that you are the same person who was banned from Ibis as Nix, but the thing is you are very defensive for someone who has done no wrong. Telling these great extravagant stories, and explaining how since there is a .00005% chance you arent the same person as Nix does no good for situation. The underlying problem is the walls in the demo, which I take fault for not demoing you for a couple more maps, but the evidence of hacking is there.

    Edit to add: Even if ReSin and Nix are not the same player, Nix's IP should be banned just to be sure Nix doesnt play Ibis servers anymore. If this happens to also ban ReSin out of coincidence then that is an inconvenience, but a necessary one if it gets hackers like Nix off our servers.
    Last edited by jssaylor2007; 09-30-2010 at 11:55 PM. Reason: Incomplete


    "lol.. im surprised no one has called hacks on me recently....i have gotten better" - Perry

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