Not admin abuse just an issue!!!

[Steamer]

I was there but tried ignoring most of it. I only saw Vlad frozen in the vent once, other than that I dont recall. I'm pretty sure you were muted then unmuted for a little while on office map. IDK who or if you were kicked as I wasn't paying attention to much of it. It was very annoying, every time you spoke you started "whining" about the whole thing and repeating yourself.

MAN, why can't people just deal with the crap and stop whining about everything, I've played with both Vlad and Mallison for a while, their both normally calm people. Save ZERO some time and just give it up. No point having to dig threw log after log about something so petty. Seems like a misunderstanding to me.... learn to let go and relax, after all, it is just a game.

Every other day there is someone posting admin abuse. The last person I have witness abuse from is already revoked.

Anyone else see a new ADMIN ABUSE!!!! trend starting?

[Mallissin]

Stamp, I apologize if I put words in your mouth. You are right and that was the reason I brought you up specifically. I tried to keep reserved for most of the night but after several hours of the whining had finally died off, seeing it start back up again when NATO arrive agitated the hell out of me.

Steamer, he was in the soda machine room on the office map (can't remember the exact name, the one with the power lines out front, big climbable text sign, vents, etc.) when I froze him. No idea how he got frozen in the vent. I only froze once on the office map. He and another person were shooting the soda machine away from the door when Knives and I were trying to get it setup. The round before we (Knives and I) had held the room and killed Vlad among others, so I figured he was doing it on purpose to throw a wrench in the works. Because it took longer to get the soda machine moved, a zombie came and ended it quickly by jumping past on the right. I didn't get Vlad and his friend frozen till it was too late but they both got turned and he proceeded to cuss his head off in all chat saying he got the "37337" tag by being on the server forever and that he shouldn't have been frozen.

Vlad, I don't randomly pick on people. No ones bullying you. You did something wrong, you got punished for it. No one harassed you. On the contrary, you are/were harassing me and it continues here. For several hours you continuously brought it up in the game and now you brought it out to the forums. You spammed friend requests through steam until I blocked after
the third request that night. I did mute you for two rounds at one point, maybe you just didn't notice. I was within my right to do so and you should re-read section seven of Zero's rules.

Your story changed three times so far (adding the second freeze, changing circumstances, and now you're saying you were banned), you falsified your proof, you never took a demo even though you repeatedly said you did in game and to your friends, and you're abusing your friends trust now by going through such lengths to get retribution for something so petty (ONE FREEZE, ONE KICK, NO BAN).

No one who was on, even Cujo, remember you being banned or frozen twice. Cujo unfroze you the one and only time you were frozen. You returned promptly the one and only time you were kicked.

You even mention in the title of this thread that it wasn't abuse, which admits guilt. You never refute breaking the first cade on the office map, and the kick was two maps later (30-40 minutes later). You've yet to respond to my rebuttal that your "proof" is faked, as it is most likely copy/pasted and altered from your other admin abuse forum post, doesn't have my name right nor the time limit of the ban.

On a side note regarding the "proof", he either got the "five minute ban" notion from a ban I did that night for a guy named "[HITLER'S] HITMAN" or from the Tsubasa post he made. I only ban for five minutes if a person is ignoring a name change request or using racial slurs on voice. Had he broken a barricade multiple times, it would have been at least a 30 minute ban.
According to interpretations of Zero's rules, a ban can be used at an admin's discretion for cade breaking and I've banned for it sparingly while also rarely being one of those behind the barricade. Both times, warning was given and the person was either flip or silent to respond, and broke a cade more than twice. I use the three strike rule, which I repeated to Vlad several times that night. I'm also generally more lenient then most admins on lesser offenses (and probably harsher on major ones).

Anyway, Vlad and I played last night without issue. None of this was personal, even though I feel Vlad tried to make it so by escalating his story and methods. As far as I'm concerned, he's a regular trying to save face and took it too far. The rest of you can judge him/us however you see fit, but he won't be getting any special treatment (good or bad) from me after all of this. I've had to punish people I consider friends on the server in the past and they remain friends to this day because they knew they did something wrong and know admins have to strive to be impartial. I've been frozen by an admin in the past and remain friends with them as well for the same reasons.

I don't take things personally. I'm responding to the thread because what he's saying is not the truth and I don't want it reflecting how I use my admin powers. I've already got one strike for banning Rapedollars for thirty minutes, not going to let such a minor thing as a just Freeze and a Kick get turned into a second strike.

[Vladninja]

Mallissin... ok ... I understand I thought you had pushed things a little far and I felt singled out. I didnt deny the frist cade breaking cause like Oasis commented (only after the whole ordeal did I even realize what you were talking about) I did shoot the machine a little to close to the door (but it was a mistake not like I forced my way into your room or anything)... I understand people take this game seriously and so do I... I always try to play by the rules and respect the admins... and in all fairness the whole ordeal with Tsubasa had nothing to do with you and I obviously over reacted... I apologize ok... mallissin Im sorry!!! I wont take back anything I said and I didnt Lie but I will apologize and admit this whole thing has gone to far. I have invested a lot of time on IBIS zombie mod and to feel miss treated two nights in a row just pushed me a bit to far... I didnt want zero to take any action against you but my belief of the Admin abuse section was to keep a record should this re occur to other member in the future.
Again Mallissin I apologize for crossing you... If Pollyanna says you are a good guy I believe her. I hope in the future we can work towards a friendship and mutual hate of stupid noobs! or at the very least I know you would make a great Rival! I know this sounds like 180 and it is but we can agree to disagree and move on... I like IBIS way to much to let this thing spoil my fun. I did notice you were on the other night and I agree there were no problems...

And to Everyone I am sorry I was whinning in game... this matter should have been handled in private. I am sorry if I distracted everyone from having fun and can only promise that it will not happen again. I dont want to start a trend of people stopping our beloved Admins from doing there jobs. I will handle any further matters directly with Zero and not waste space on the forum. I love all you guys like a big dysfunctional family!!!!


P.S. and not related at all but I left Polly a new video card at my work so with any luck she will be back on Zombie mod Tonight! Woot!!!!

[mkII]

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MAN, why can't people just deal with the crap and stop whining about everything, I've played with both Vlad and Mallison for a while, their both normally calm people. Save ZERO some time and just give it up. No point having to dig threw log after log about something so petty. Seems like a misunderstanding to me.... learn to let go and relax, after all, it is just a game.

Every other day there is someone posting admin abuse. The last person I have witness abuse from is already revoked.

Anyone else see a new ADMIN ABUSE!!!! trend starting?

Why does he not have the right to take it to the forums and ask for an explanation? I'm not taking sides because I wasn't there, but if I felt like I was being treated unfairly (again, not taking sides) I would definitely bring it up on the forums. Keep in mind the original post wasn't in any way trying to start anything from what I read. He wants an answer as to why he was treated the way he was. (which he felt was abuse, hence posting under the "Admin Abuse" forum)

[Steamer]

First off, I never said he didn't have the right to take it to the forums or ask for an explanation.
He was given answers In game. Maybe he didn't here them all, maybe he did.

Everyone who was there knows it was just a big misunderstanding.

Go troll somewere else mkII, You were not there. Differences are settled. Your input has no relevance here.

[-=NYS=- C.O.]

This is the gayest thread ever in the IBIS Forum's history.

[mkII]

First off, I never said he didn't have the right to take it to the forums or ask for an explanation.
He was given answers In game. Maybe he didn't here them all, maybe he did.

Everyone who was there knows it was just a big misunderstanding.

Go troll somewere else mkII, You were not there. Differences are settled. Your input has no relevance here.

Well I full well admitted that I wasn't there and prefaced my original post with that fact - I am going off what was said here. You said why do people have to whine about everything. Calling his post whining when he simply wanted answers leads me to believe that you feel that he shouldn't have - when I feel he did nothing wrong in doing so. He said he didn't want to cause drama and there was none, so what is wrong with posting here and getting clarification. Yes, he could have PM'd the admin about it but it still fits into this forum so he chose this avenue.

Your particular input here actually provided low, if not no relevance to the post. At this point all you're doing is continuing a hatred for me that you acquired from another post. (I assume?)

Either way have a nice day.

[Steamer]

Nope, I hate you in no way, I actually enjoy playing with you. If you were infact there you would know exactly what I am talking about. As for the input of a post.... Why do you even talk about it when your bring nothing (even if mine brought little)? I said were he was frozen, on what map it was, ect.... If that has no relevance or input then I guess I am just mentally challenged.

[ManBearPig <ibis>]

This is the gayest thread ever in the IBIS Forum's history.

+1...........

[I LIKE TURTLES]

WTF?
Who the hell actually read all of that?
I stopped after line 2, post 1.
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