yep and that type of violence is still happening in the 3rd world's, s. africa is a perfect example. the people with that type of view just don't understand true violence... I can't even say I do cause I haven't seen it firsthand. I got sick to my stomach watching them decapitate pearl. I like to think many of our soldiers join to learn discipline (its a good way to start a real life for the troubled teens) and many do it just for a job. my friends in many different branches had no complaints when they finished their tours, and no they weren't poor & played games like madden for the most part.