US Government Begins Global Internet Censorship Without Court Orders

[StarsMine]

Personally, I would rather not see something than purchase it. If it comes down to me spending 70 dollars on a dvd set, I'd rather just rent it on netflix when it comes out or not see it at all. Then again, I'm frugal.

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eh, if its out, then I would rather buy it then rent it, however there are limits to what I am willing to spend, usually NO MORE then 2 bucks an ep (we are talking anime there) and thats only if the show really catches my eye, usually dont want to spend more then 1.50-1.75 an ep.
and then there are movies, unless its some uber super deluxe edition, please dont sell it for more then 15 bucks.

[hallwagner]

Sorry, Wagner, but you're confusing civil law with criminal law. Torrenting is not a crime. It's not illegal. It's a tort, which is settled in civil court. All of your examples deal with criminal law, permitting law enforcement agencies to take action preliminary to criminal charges. It doesn't work that way in civil law.

i wasn't stating that torrenting itself is illegal, i was stating that copyright infringement is. it is most definitely illegal.

No, its not legal, but.... It is not arrestable. Its a civil matter only. One can not go to jail or be prosicuted for it.

i never said it was arrestable, i said that the government has the right to stop such activity whenever it happens. this is at least my view. also if people believe the government is acting illegally or unconstitutionally in any way and act as if they can get their actions reversed or prove them as unlawful, then they have another thing coming. also, as i've said before, torrenting isn't illegal, but some of the things people torrent are. there is no way a torrenting service or even a government agency is going to regulate every single torrent and see if its legal or not. its just a whole lot easier to shut those sites down. i mean who uses torrents for anything other than downloading unlicensed media? yea, almost nobody. its like having a store that sells crack and small amounts of furniture, your'e not gonna say, well we'll just take away the crack and let you guys carry on your business. bad analogy, yes, but still

[Fluffy Frufflebottoms]

i wasn't stating that torrenting itself is illegal, i was stating that copyright infringement is. it is most definitely illegal.

Contrary to what you said, however, infringing copyright by torrenting copywritten materials without gain is not a crime. You can't keep drawing comparisons to criminal law enforcement, when the issue at hand isn't criminal behaviour.

[acolyte_to_jippity]

Contrary to what you said, however, infringing copyright by torrenting copywritten materials without gain is not a crime. You can't keep drawing comparisons to criminal law enforcement, when the issue at hand isn't criminal behaviour.

exactly. the companies can sue for lost profits (lol, good band) but since it's a civil issue arrests cannot be made. BUT, if they're selling the shit they pirate, then it becomes a criminal issue.

[ZERO]

This is also why it is handled by a court. It is not illegal until the court rules so.

[Scrubbleboo]

This is also why it is handled by a court. It is not illegal until the court rules so.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

this just in sarah PAlin thinks we should prosecute wikileaks owner for Treason... LOLOL

[StarsMine]

this just in sarah PAlin thinks we should prosecute wikileaks owner for Treason... LOLOL

I see no problem in thinking that, the guy is very very anti-goverment

[acolyte_to_jippity]

I see no problem in thinking that, the guy is very very anti-goverment

same. wikileaks and the new york times

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

I see no problem in thinking that, the guy is very very anti-goverment

the guy.. is Australian. how do you propose we arrest him for Treason if he isnt even in America let alone an American citizen.