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    so early january i will be making a big computer up grade first thing is first i have replaced everything but a mother board is it any harder than installing any other part ?

    i no what i want but i want to make sure it what i get will be compatible

    for the mb i would like a am2/am2+/am3 soket becouse i wont be able to up grade my procceser for probbly a little later and dont want to be left with no computer for a few months and i would like 2 pci e slots

    i plan on getting the 6 core amd proccesser 3.2 one

    and i want cheep good ram dont no if that is out there lol 4 gigs for starters
    all the mb's that have am2/am2+/am3 are all ddr2 ram is there a big diff between ddr2 and ddr3

    not sure what i am looking for for heat sink i saw that v8 one thats what i was thinking

    allready have the pny gts 450 for graphics

    and i no i will need a bigger power supply i only have a 500 watt now

    and how do i no if it will fit in my case ?



    these are what i am thinking of
    power supply
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817171054
    cpu
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103849
    cooling
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835103055
    ram
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820178219
    mb
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813130265

    i am up for ideas and any suggestions exept get intel over amd i like amd thank you

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    Us an AMD3 (it does have ddr3) if your going to use the thuban CPU
    And why would you need a PSU bigger then 500W unless its a piss poor model? I wouldnt spend the money upgrading that unless you plan on getting a second gts450


    Quote Originally Posted by Zero
    So... what your trying to tell me is that you saw a spherical square?

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    Stars is right on the PSU. So with the money you save lose that DDR 2 as it's a dinosaur and the MB to upgrade to:




    MSI NF980-G65 AM3 NVIDIA nForce 980a SLI HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...0nForce%20980a

    Kingston HyperX T1 Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2133 Desktop Memory Model KHX2133C9AD3T1K2/4GX

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820104204

    Then when you get a 2nd card, buy a 800-1000 watt PSU as you won't overly abuse it by drawing too much. I like Corsair as I have an 850 but I also like Ultra X3 and I have a 1k unit. Both are nice.

    Granted you'll have to kick in another $70.00 but it's worth it IMO - OR - you can use the cooler that comes with the X6 and only kick in another $10.00. There's nothiing wrong with the cooler that comes with the AMD CPU as I run a X4 955 and it hovers around 34 idle and even at 10% OC it never goes over 65 so get the cooler later IF you feel you need it.

    GLK
    Last edited by DeadEyeDeNNi$; 12-01-2010 at 11:40 AM.
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    so i can manage with the 500 watt psu with all that that is awsome
    and the cpu come with a cooler? and dennis would that mb be able to use a am2 socket? also

    and is putting in a mother board complicated?

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    I'll say this ... Putting in a new motherboard is incredibally complicated if you have never done it, but if you have done it its not too bad, just extremely frustrating.


    "lol.. im surprised no one has called hacks on me recently....i have gotten better" - Perry

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    Quote Originally Posted by brentidge View Post
    so i can manage with the 500 watt psu with all that that is awsome
    and the cpu come with a cooler? and dennis would that mb be able to use a am2 socket? also

    and is putting in a mother board complicated?
    If you buy the BOXED version of the CPU (which is what you linked) then yes it comes with a matched cooler.

    It is a AM 3 socket so that means that you can ONLY use a AM3 socket CPU. Go to the MB mfr. and check the compatability charts for which processors you can use. The X6 is one of the fastest out atm if you don't need that then you can also save some money on a older version such as a quad core vs. 6 core state of the art latest/greatest blah, blah, blah, and still have plenty of speed for $100.00 less with something like this..

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-656-_-Product

    IF it's on the compatability sheet of the MB. That's YOUR homework, not mine :P

    As far as installing a MB being easy, well, only if you know how, like anything else, but if your going to learn then it's much easier these days.
    The trick is to R E A D the instruction manual, THEN, RE READ the instruction manual, then, well, you get the idea and keep it open page by page when you're installing it w/o missing a step. When done recheck every page + every connection like your life depended on it or you could be putting in for an RMA then you get to practice some more on a new one!

    Once you get it all built and it runs, before you get it all loaded up only to find out that either something went wrong or it may be a faulty unit (it happens) do a burn in test with a program like SiSoft Sandra utility that you can get FREE from here...

    http://downloads.guru3d.com/SiSoftwa...load-2056.html

    Then if all goes well start loading it up remembering to do it in small stages creating restore points along the way so if something goes awry you don't have to start from the beginning.

    Have fun
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    When do Am3+ boards come out? I would think q1 next year as you can pop in your am3 CPU now and upgrade to a buldozer later, it just wouldnt have a nividia chip that brentige here would need to SLI his 450.


    Quote Originally Posted by Zero
    So... what your trying to tell me is that you saw a spherical square?

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    Quote Originally Posted by StarsMine View Post
    When do Am3+ boards come out? I would think q1 next year as you can pop in your am3 CPU now and upgrade to a buldozer later, it just wouldnt have a nividia chip that brentige here would need to SLI his 450.
    Feb, but most of the stats are heresay atm and really not a lot of benefits worth waiting for.

    Let him get the revised schedule I gave him and he'll be a happy camper for years before he needs to rebuild again with a few add ons like another card, a new PSU, etc. when the money is available. The last biggie of switching out the X6 for an X4 will be a noticable difference in the wallet and not much for him on performance as the X4 is really a nice unit that's proven itself worthy w/o the excessive heat, easy OCing (NO Brent, just use the built in turbo booster at +10% and leave it there - Nothing fancy) and real stabil.

    For more info on the
    "Bulldozer", AM3+, the subject matter is all over the different forums... Pack a lunch but no need to concern Brent here with a clusterfuck like that now.

    The "KISS" method works well here
    One cannot improve if they cannot see their mistakes!

    If you can't do it right, Don't bother!

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    i really want the six core for bragging rights but your probbly right and should just get the quad and wait for the next latest and gretest lol whats it mean when starmine says he will need something nvidia to sli his 450

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    To do SLI without a hack (its an easy hack but it still makes people nervous) you need a intel or nividia chip set on the mobo southbridge(?). AMDs chipsets dont allow SLI only crossfire, although im fairly sure nividia chips allow crossfire... odd considering they dont let you use a physix card with a amd card w/o a hack (once again its an easy hack, but its still a hack none-the-less)

    If you dont actually plan on going SLI with your 450s, I say just use an AMD chipset with an AMD mobo, as sometimes those nividia chipsets when running on am3 boards freak out and do some odd things, nothing major, just odd.

    I actually would say go for the x6 the cost of 2 extra cores is only 50 bucks and even though it wont make much of a difference now (like 4-5 frames), I am sure it will in 2-4 years when games actually start using those cores, and if you use apps like photoshop or video editing, you will notice the difference instantly. However this artical will disagree with me D: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...i-x4,2791.html
    Last edited by StarsMine; 12-01-2010 at 10:45 PM.


    Quote Originally Posted by Zero
    So... what your trying to tell me is that you saw a spherical square?

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