big computer upgrade

[brentidge]

so early january i will be making a big computer up grade first thing is first i have replaced everything but a mother board is it any harder than installing any other part ?

i no what i want but i want to make sure it what i get will be compatible

for the mb i would like a am2/am2+/am3 soket becouse i wont be able to up grade my procceser for probbly a little later and dont want to be left with no computer for a few months and i would like 2 pci e slots

i plan on getting the 6 core amd proccesser 3.2 one

and i want cheep good ram dont no if that is out there lol 4 gigs for starters
all the mb's that have am2/am2+/am3 are all ddr2 ram is there a big diff between ddr2 and ddr3

not sure what i am looking for for heat sink i saw that v8 one thats what i was thinking

allready have the pny gts 450 for graphics

and i no i will need a bigger power supply i only have a 500 watt now

and how do i no if it will fit in my case ?



these are what i am thinking of
power supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817171054
cpu
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103849
cooling
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835103055
ram
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820178219
mb
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813130265

i am up for ideas and any suggestions exept get intel over amd i like amd thank you

[StarsMine]

Us an AMD3 (it does have ddr3) if your going to use the thuban CPU
And why would you need a PSU bigger then 500W unless its a piss poor model? I wouldnt spend the money upgrading that unless you plan on getting a second gts450

[DeadEyeDeNNi$]

Stars is right on the PSU. So with the money you save lose that DDR 2 as it's a dinosaur and the MB to upgrade to:




MSI NF980-G65 AM3 NVIDIA nForce 980a SLI HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...0nForce%20980a

Kingston HyperX T1 Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2133 Desktop Memory Model KHX2133C9AD3T1K2/4GX

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820104204

Then when you get a 2nd card, buy a 800-1000 watt PSU as you won't overly abuse it by drawing too much. I like Corsair as I have an 850 but I also like Ultra X3 and I have a 1k unit. Both are nice.

Granted you'll have to kick in another $70.00 but it's worth it IMO - OR - you can use the cooler that comes with the X6 and only kick in another $10.00. There's nothiing wrong with the cooler that comes with the AMD CPU as I run a X4 955 and it hovers around 34 idle and even at 10% OC it never goes over 65 so get the cooler later IF you feel you need it.

GLK

[brentidge]

so i can manage with the 500 watt psu with all that that is awsome
and the cpu come with a cooler? and dennis would that mb be able to use a am2 socket? also

and is putting in a mother board complicated?

[jssaylor2007]

I'll say this ... Putting in a new motherboard is incredibally complicated if you have never done it, but if you have done it its not too bad, just extremely frustrating.

[DeadEyeDeNNi$]

so i can manage with the 500 watt psu with all that that is awsome
and the cpu come with a cooler? and dennis would that mb be able to use a am2 socket? also

and is putting in a mother board complicated?

If you buy the BOXED version of the CPU (which is what you linked) then yes it comes with a matched cooler.

It is a AM 3 socket so that means that you can ONLY use a AM3 socket CPU. Go to the MB mfr. and check the compatability charts for which processors you can use. The X6 is one of the fastest out atm if you don't need that then you can also save some money on a older version such as a quad core vs. 6 core state of the art latest/greatest blah, blah, blah, and still have plenty of speed for $100.00 less with something like this..

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-656-_-Product

IF it's on the compatability sheet of the MB. That's YOUR homework, not mine :P

As far as installing a MB being easy, well, only if you know how, like anything else, but if your going to learn then it's much easier these days.
The trick is to R E A D the instruction manual, THEN, RE READ the instruction manual, then, well, you get the idea and keep it open page by page when you're installing it w/o missing a step. When done recheck every page + every connection like your life depended on it or you could be putting in for an RMA then you get to practice some more on a new one!

Once you get it all built and it runs, before you get it all loaded up only to find out that either something went wrong or it may be a faulty unit (it happens) do a burn in test with a program like SiSoft Sandra utility that you can get FREE from here...

http://downloads.guru3d.com/SiSoftwa...load-2056.html

Then if all goes well start loading it up remembering to do it in small stages creating restore points along the way so if something goes awry you don't have to start from the beginning.

Have fun

[StarsMine]

When do Am3+ boards come out? I would think q1 next year as you can pop in your am3 CPU now and upgrade to a buldozer later, it just wouldnt have a nividia chip that brentige here would need to SLI his 450.

[ZERO]

Currently the AMD sockets have the worst upgrade routs short of the 1157 socket. They are all going out of production soon.

Check the latest issue of Maximum PC for recommendations. It is on shelves now and so I am not able to link any direct data now look up the info as my copy is back in atl.


Currently the only socket that I know of that will have decent upgrade routs for the next 3 years is the 1336 socket. This will not be replaced for 2 years and still will have xeons on it. So unless you want to hold to buy a board on one of the new sockets coming out you can either buy a 1336 board or get screwed down the road.

[StarsMine]

how does 1366 have upgrade routs? it only can use the i7 9xx and will only ever be able to use that.

and dead eye, I said I doubt that the first am3+ mobos would have nividia chips, wasnt anything to do with your recomendation

[DeadEyeDeNNi$]

Currently the AMD sockets have the worst upgrade routs short of the 1157 socket. They are all going out of production soon.

Check the latest issue of Maximum PC for recommendations. It is on shelves now and so I am not able to link any direct data now look up the info as my copy is back in atl.


Currently the only socket that I know of that will have decent upgrade routs for the next 3 years is the 1336 socket. This will not be replaced for 2 years and still will have xeons on it. So unless you want to hold to buy a board on one of the new sockets coming out you can either buy a 1336 board or get screwed down the road.

Although I said I was done here I MUST post at least this...

Z, the site that u reference must be in INTELS pocket as I know u are a staunch advocate of Intel and anti AMD for the most part, BUT, if u read all the info that is out there atm, u will find that the AM3 socket will not be left out in the cold all too soon and has a future more so than most of the rest.

But let's face it, really, if u stay on top of the game, have the resources, and can do your own builds, who the hell keeps a system for more than 1-2 years anyway?!

Don't answer because it's an academic question as not many do. I update my primary and pass it down/recycle it to my secondary, to my 3rd, etc. etc and I upgrade annually unless the market is just building w/o retooling for a revenue and not a whole lot of pluses or increases in performance over what I already have then I'll overextend.

AMD- ASUS - FTW




PS--- Let the clusterfuck begin :P