016 Vagabond [310] v1.1.8

[Spasm]

Thanks Zero,

[Steamer]

Yay!...

[Masskid]

i've gotten like 4 left hand glitches in the past hour.... whats going on?

[KholdStare]

I propose a 3.0 second cool down be added to this race. Although some people argue that this race is 100% balanced as is, the fact remains that this has got to be the single most bitched about race there is for a very good reason. The cool down wont be so long as to prevent the race from being used effectively, but will prevent it from being quite so hard to kill for those of us that dont have every counter race maxed and enough cash for lace+health every round.

Every other server I have played on has had a cooldown on the invis teleport so that it is used as it was intended - as a quick escape and way to get to sneaky spots for a sniper race. It was NOT intended to be the hard core attack race that it is. If 3 seconds is deemed too long (it would be 5 seconds if i had my way!) then 1.5 seconds would at least be better than it is now.

I feel this was about vegalion and rapscallion too - ill post those on their topics if this gets any response

[SCRIBBLE]

I propose a 3.0 second cool down be added to this race.

Not going to happen. This is not every other server you have played on.

[Erdenay]

I propose a 3.0 second cool down be added to this race. Although some people argue that this race is 100% balanced as is, the fact remains that this has got to be the single most bitched about race there is for a very good reason. The cool down wont be so long as to prevent the race from being used effectively, but will prevent it from being quite so hard to kill for those of us that dont have every counter race maxed and enough cash for lace+health every round.

Every other server I have played on has had a cooldown on the invis teleport so that it is used as it was intended - as a quick escape and way to get to sneaky spots for a sniper race. It was NOT intended to be the hard core attack race that it is. If 3 seconds is deemed too long (it would be 5 seconds if i had my way!) then 1.5 seconds would at least be better than it is now.

I feel this was about vegalion and rapscallion too - ill post those on their topics if this gets any response

Not even close to being most bitched about race. Also, it's fine as it is.

[Chikun]

Every other server I have played on

This server prides itself on being different.

ill post those on their topics if this gets any response

The responses won't be positive as this topic has been talked about for longer than it takes to pass a bill through U.S. Congress.

[KholdStare]

Not going to happen. This is not every other server you have played on.

1.5 second cooldown? 1.0 cooldown? Just so that they have to spend that tiny bit of time NOT invis to give people a chance... If you think that vagabond is a weak race because its cooldown goes up ONE second, then you are clearly using the ult as a crutch. Its a powerful race without non-stop invis-teleporting and much less infuriating. With other races you feel you have a chance - if you are good and fast you can usually pop off a headshot and win. With my level 16 human I often take down maxed Santa and the like, but basically just avoid all fights with vegabonds (same goes with the other invis teleport races). I use radar/lace/wards/roots/etc but it rarely works.

How about restricting some items for vaga? No lace would be a great start!

[SCRIBBLE]

Nope.

---------- Post added at 10:49 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:36 PM ----------

Stick with it, try playing vaga more, and learn to know your enemy.

[B1ackOut]

It is very possible to take down a vaga, limit the space he can move in, use the flashlight, predict his movements. When in doubt go human, the extra hp and bash is one of the best counters. Also if you have a lace the vaga is next to useless, especially if you do what I just mentioned. No nerfs will even happen or ever be needed, on this server the speed and teleport is what makes it such a dangerous race. As Scrib said, learning your enemy is the first step to beating them.