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    Quote Originally Posted by ZERO View Post
    As for the programing side of things I am planning to program my own map vote system from scratch that will SOLVE all map voting related problems for good. I am also thinking about updating the grenades so that you can put the fire out if you go in water.

    Obviously there are many more things that need to be done but the good news is that with the new clan members we can look at more things faster.
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    I have just reprogrammed the auto buy to reduce lag and errors. So far I have been unbable to get any of the mods to generate errors so we now run totally error free. It will no longer drop nades if you already have one which will GREATLY improve performance and will also prevent any possible crashes this could cause. In the future I will also filter out zombies to improve the code further.

    One other thing I was wondering, would you guys like weapons n shit to be removed on death. Destroying these entities will improve server performance and client side fps.



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    Quote Originally Posted by ZERO View Post
    I have just reprogrammed the auto buy to reduce lag and errors. So far I have been unbable to get any of the mods to generate errors so we now run totally error free. It will no longer drop nades if you already have one which will GREATLY improve performance and will also prevent any possible crashes this could cause. In the future I will also filter out zombies to improve the code further.

    One other thing I was wondering, would you guys like weapons n shit to be removed on death. Destroying these entities will improve server performance and client side fps.
    I say yes. Most of the time, we don't need the extra guns lying around. It's only grenades that you should keep.



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    That would definitely make a difference, I don't see much of a point to keep the weapons, There is enough ammunition on the guns to stay alive so they shouldn't be needing to pick another one up.

    On another thought Zero, with the one spamming on votes, why not add a time limit where the players can only view the choices. Then when they actually get the chance to vote they might be more aware of what they are choosing instead of spamming.

    -Rezel


    Rezel<ibis>: i'll make a self reliant artificial intelligence to deal with admins... I'll call it maynard 1.0 a exact replica of his personality to kick the shit out of bad admins..
    maynard<ibis>: an army of AI maynards.... this pleases me.

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    i still like the idea of insta-kicks for voting 1 on map votes
    Quote Originally Posted by OMGBEARS
    I feel it is important for me to let you know how feeble your efforts to strike such feelings inside of me really are. I have the internal fortitude of a large animal, an elephant, for instance. Likewise, I'm the result of coitus between the devil and a pack mule made out of chainsaws, so I am extremely strong, and carry little care for others in this world. Trees also stand aside due to my chainsaw blood.
    Quote Originally Posted by ๖ReS View Post
    How am I supposed to tell you to fuck off without replying ?

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    Actually the main reason I want to make my own plugin is so that there will be a revote between the top 2 options to make things easier. Also more random selection of maps.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Rezel View Post
    That would definitely make a difference, I don't see much of a point to keep the weapons, There is enough ammunition on the guns to stay alive so they shouldn't be needing to pick another one up.
    I always liked it because when I didn't have time to reload, I would just pick up the gun of the dead guy and keep shooting. But if it reduces server lag, then I think we should get rid of it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rezel View Post
    By Rezel, and Anex

    May be updated at any time, as these are only beta we ask that you input any ideas to add to these rules to further better them.

    ZteleingThis only pertains to humans who are attempting to use this ability to ztele away from zombies.
    • Attempting to flee from a zombie who is chasing a player.
    • Barricading a Illegal barricade(as deemed in the illegal cade sub section – Kick if not complied)


    Cade Breaking
    Whoever gets into the the room first is the soul proprietor of that room, and has the freedom to do whatever he deems necessary to survive.

    • Attempting to destroy a barricade with regardless of intent:
    o To get into the users barricade
    o To get out of the users barricade
    o Grenadeing the users barricade to spite them, or for personal entertainment. (This does not include accidental grenades; punishment will be left up to the admin to decide)

    Blocking Using players body to block another zombie from tagging its opponent, or not allowing another user into the barricade.

    • Preventing other zombies to tag a human(s) by blocking. Humans may not block if the end result is the death of another player(s) -IE World Damage, Map Kills box’s.

    When blocking is allowed as a human
    o Tubes
    o Barricades
    o Crawl Spaces
    o Blocking other player(s) from entering your barricade (While zombies has not spawned) due to too many people in the spot (overflow)

    Team killing – Killing other players by in game map tricks, bugs, and purposeful tagging.
    • Using map triggers to kill team mates (IE Blowing up the bridge)
    • Sitting in a spot to purposefully get tagged and kill the rest of your barricading group.
    • Exploiting the grenade glitch to purposefully killing your barricading group.

    Restricted Weaponsbuying weapons which are not restricted.
    • Picking up weapons which you are not supposed to be using.
    o Awps
    o Auto Snipers
    o Smoke Grenades
    o Flash Grenades

    • Using console to buy weapons
    o Awps
    o Auto Snipers
    o Smoke Grenades
    o Flash Grenades

    Admins: May be depicted by the severity of the issue:
    It is also highly suggested that admins login to the IBIS Ventrilo for better communication between them.
    • Using excessive bans for minor offenses (Ie A month).

    Restricted Admin usage (Subject to change)
    o Slapping themselves to gain an unfair advantage.
    o Changing the gravity settings
    o Using Noclip
    o Unrestricting weapons (see Restricted weapons section)
    o Turning players into freeze bombs/firebombs against players consent
    o Obsessively beaconing a barricading group
    o Giving health to themselves












    Ban Criteria


    Cade breaking | -Zteleing | Blocking
    I. Freeze the user
    II. Kick with a warning in admin chat.
    III. Ban – May resort to this depending on severity (Etc: Purposefully cade breaking)

    a. 5 minute ban
    b. 30 minute ban
    c. 1 hour ban
    d. 24 hour ban

    Blocking | Blocking
    - Admin may resort immediately to a short ban depending on severity.
    a. Kick
    b. 5 minutes
    c. 2 hours
    d. 24 hours
    Restricted Weapons –Depending on severity will more than likely lead up to

    a. Kick
    b. 5 minutes
    c. 30 minutes
    d. 2 hours
    e. 24 hours
    f. 48 hours
    Admins: - Admins abusing their rights should be reported in the forums immediately; repercussions as zero sees fit.
    Changes in red

    Quote Originally Posted by DJ_MikeyRevile View Post
    some of the rules seem a little unclear, these are all offensive actions correct?
    what about for the blocknig people from crawling in tubes.. just make it a universel 2 per tube rule?
    I did the changes above to hopefully make it more clear. I don't think we should have the 2 per tube rule but instead allow the play to block. If we allow the two per tube rule, situations could get more complicated. Allowing a player to block in the tube is a much simpler idea and it eliminates the "Admin this guy won't get out of our tube!" "Well did you block or try to prevent him from getting in?" "No..." "Well then its your own damn fault."

    Quote Originally Posted by acolyte_to_jippity View Post
    wait, you list situations when things are allowed an not allowed in same phrasing and place. there's no differentiation.

    are we not allowed to block someone from entering cade when it's full?
    Still a draft and not the final, which areas are you talking about? You are allowed to block someone from entering a cade. You do not have to let anyone in if you don't want to.
    Last edited by anex; 02-02-2011 at 08:57 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anex View Post
    • When blocking is allowed as a human

    o Tubes
    o Barricades
    o Crawl Spaces
    o Blocking other player(s) from entering your barricade (While zombies has not spawned) due to too many people in the spot (overflow)
    Maybe dipict exactly how many people "overflow" is. I see this turning into somthing along the lines of "GET OUT THEre IS TO MANY PEOPLE" arguments more often.

    Also i mentioned to rezel about a universal crouch and tube spot number, like i.e.

    In any crouch or tube spot can there be at one time, 2 people, unless the original 2 people in said crouch or tube spot agree to let others in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DJ_MikeyRevile View Post
    Maybe dipict exactly how many people "overflow" is. I see this turning into somthing along the lines of "GET OUT THEre IS TO MANY PEOPLE" arguments more often.

    Also i mentioned to rezel about a universal crouch and tube spot number, like i.e.

    In any crouch or tube spot can there be at one time, 2 people, unless the original 2 people in said crouch or tube spot agree to let others in.
    Haha tube spot number. Damn, we are about to get technical and specific on zm! I like the tube spot number idea. It will take some time to map out all the tube/crouch numbers. When I get off tonight (I'm actually on lunch right now and I have to go back soon) we should get on ventrilo and start mapping out stuff if you want.

    We were just trying to simplify the two per tube "rule".

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    i meant in general. it's just confusing when you list the "cans" right next to the "cant's"
    the big one was the blocking as human though

    i'm guessing using the cannon on siberia, natalya's ship, an zerbes demon to kill your teammates is a no-no as well?
    Quote Originally Posted by OMGBEARS
    I feel it is important for me to let you know how feeble your efforts to strike such feelings inside of me really are. I have the internal fortitude of a large animal, an elephant, for instance. Likewise, I'm the result of coitus between the devil and a pack mule made out of chainsaws, so I am extremely strong, and carry little care for others in this world. Trees also stand aside due to my chainsaw blood.
    Quote Originally Posted by ๖ReS View Post
    How am I supposed to tell you to fuck off without replying ?

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