Zm Rules v3.1

[Core]

"Sabotage – Killing other players by in game map tricks, bugs, and purposeful tagging"
"purposeful tagging"
inflating = purposeful tagging
inflating = against server rules
am i wrong?

[SupermanTM]

Inflating is made up word, CTRL+F and search for it in the rules. The word inflating doesn't exist, not sure who came up with it as a term to describe some non-existent rule.

Saying I can't get tagged as a zombie, is essentially saying I can't play the way I want. How exactly can you enforce this rule besides slaying every afk player at the start of a round. Or only knowing someone broke the rule if they openly admit they are getting tagged on purpose? Otherwise I can fail surf and get tagged anyway and make it appear like I suck or something. Sorry guys I just can't surf. The same with any escape map. OH damn I CANT CROUCH JUMP, as soon as possible. Turned into a zed, now I can have fun, because being a human is boring to me right now. Etc. Let people play as they want, it's highly unlikely all 20 players going to die and be zeds.

The rules only state it's illegal to spec and enter as a zombie, or quit the game so you can enter as a zombie. But a zed to stab you and to become a zombie, is actually how the game is played. How can that be illegal? Kill feeding might be something that can be illegal, but its also impossible since zombie spawn is random. I can't get tagged and give my friend +1 kills all the time, he won't be a zed every time. But sure slay someone if they feeding 1 person kills, i agree.

Not sure the issue with shooting zeds in a cage other than it annoys the zeds in the cage, or during shroom makes humans lose boss battle.. But again it comes down to, if the person wants to sit there shoot zeds and then increase their chances of failing to escape and die, let them, now they are a zombie and chasing humans. In most escape maps you don't need a whole team to escape except potter, and in potter there are no cages.

[$Money$]

Inflating is made up word, CTRL+F and search for it in the rules. The word inflating doesn't exist, not sure who came up with it as a term to describe some non-existent rule.

Saying I can't get tagged as a zombie, is essentially saying I can't play the way I want. How exactly can you enforce this rule besides slaying every afk player at the start of a round. Or only knowing someone broke the rule if they openly admit they are getting tagged on purpose? Otherwise I can fail surf and get tagged anyway and make it appear like I suck or something. Sorry guys I just can't surf. The same with any escape map. OH damn I CANT CROUCH JUMP, as soon as possible. Turned into a zed, now I can have fun, because being a human is boring to me right now. Etc. Let people play as they want, it's highly unlikely all 20 players going to die and be zeds.

The rules only state it's illegal to spec and enter as a zombie, or quit the game so you can enter as a zombie. But a zed to stab you and to become a zombie, is actually how the game is played. How can that be illegal? Kill feeding might be something that can be illegal, but its also impossible since zombie spawn is random. I can't get tagged and give my friend +1 kills all the time, he won't be a zed every time. But sure slay someone if they feeding 1 person kills, i agree.

Not sure the issue with shooting zeds in a cage other than it annoys the zeds in the cage, or during shroom makes humans lose boss battle.. But again it comes down to, if the person wants to sit there shoot zeds and then increase their chances of failing to escape and die, let them, now they are a zombie and chasing humans. In most escape maps you don't need a whole team to escape except potter, and in potter there are no cages.

Talked to Phil about this so Im sure the rules will be updated some time soon. As far as the Cages, Voodoo I know its illegal because Zombies can die in cage. On shrooms zombies health doesn't go down I believe. Then again Ill let Clan tell ya for sure.

[SupermanTM]

Yeah, I still don't actually agree but as long as the rules reflect what admins enforce in the game then its all good, so there is no confusion between admins or with players.. =)

[phil.™]

Inflating is made up word, CTRL+F and search for it in the rules. The word inflating doesn't exist, not sure who came up with it as a term to describe some non-existent rule.

Saying I can't get tagged as a zombie, is essentially saying I can't play the way I want. How exactly can you enforce this rule besides slaying every afk player at the start of a round. Or only knowing someone broke the rule if they openly admit they are getting tagged on purpose? Otherwise I can fail surf and get tagged anyway and make it appear like I suck or something. Sorry guys I just can't surf. The same with any escape map. OH damn I CANT CROUCH JUMP, as soon as possible. Turned into a zed, now I can have fun, because being a human is boring to me right now. Etc. Let people play as they want, it's highly unlikely all 20 players going to die and be zeds.

The rules only state it's illegal to spec and enter as a zombie, or quit the game so you can enter as a zombie. But a zed to stab you and to become a zombie, is actually how the game is played. How can that be illegal? Kill feeding might be something that can be illegal, but its also impossible since zombie spawn is random. I can't get tagged and give my friend +1 kills all the time, he won't be a zed every time. But sure slay someone if they feeding 1 person kills, i agree.

Not sure the issue with shooting zeds in a cage other than it annoys the zeds in the cage, or during shroom makes humans lose boss battle.. But again it comes down to, if the person wants to sit there shoot zeds and then increase their chances of failing to escape and die, let them, now they are a zombie and chasing humans. In most escape maps you don't need a whole team to escape except potter, and in potter there are no cages.

Complete the objective. If you are a human, your main objective is to hold off where need be, and defend and make it to the end of map alive, and as human, and to help other humans win.

Purposefully getting yourself tagged is not completing your objective.

Clear?

[SCRIBBLE]

Crystal.

I like when you administrate. Sexy.

[I'm a zambi]

Complete the objective. If you are a human, your main objective is to hold off where need be, and defend and make it to the end of map alive, and as human, and to help other humans win.

Purposefully getting yourself tagged is not completing your objective.

Clear?

+1

This is what I've always assumed and how I've been played while on ZM, only suiciding when the zambis begin to takeover.

[SupermanTM]

Thanks Phil, just some thoughts/questions.

Same people are zeds over and over on surf, potter, slender man etc. (I don't want to slay them for it..) It never stacked teams so far. But it does make the game challenging for humans when it's the same guy who is actually good at being a Zed. I think these players want to follow the game objectives.. that is.. the objectives as a zombie. and not as a human.

(Couldn't ZERO technically add to the server, the chance to volunteer as a zombie next round and override some/all of the random spawn?)

Anyway, I had another question. Player sits at zombie spawn in an escape map. Waits for them to spawn. (Ie potter, slenderman) And then knifes the zeds into humans. That is illegal? I slayed MrGeek for doing it. And cited that hes a human and should be escaping. But he said it was abuse. I could be wrong, dunno. =/

And friendly zombies? when they run with the like 8 humans, and someone keeps stabbing them and they get mad say if they get stabbed again they'll kill the whole team. They get stabbed, whole team dies. LOL Anything to do about this?

[$Money$]

You not talking about SIN are you? lol
As far as the knifing Zombies into humans, big no no. Remember to Warn, Slay, and then Ban. Don't go just straight to Ban like some admins.
Friendly zombies, no such thing. So if they stab someone that is their job.

[phil.™]

Thanks Phil, just some thoughts/questions.

Same people are zeds over and over on surf, potter, slender man etc. (I don't want to slay them for it..) It never stacked teams so far. But it does make the game challenging for humans when it's the same guy who is actually good at being a Zed. I think these players want to follow the game objectives.. that is.. the objectives as a zombie. and not as a human.

(Couldn't ZERO technically add to the server, the chance to volunteer as a zombie next round and override some/all of the random spawn?)

Anyway, I had another question. Player sits at zombie spawn in an escape map. Waits for them to spawn. (Ie potter, slenderman) And then knifes the zeds into humans. That is illegal? I slayed MrGeek for doing it. And cited that hes a human and should be escaping. But he said it was abuse. I could be wrong, dunno. =/

And friendly zombies? when they run with the like 8 humans, and someone keeps stabbing them and they get mad say if they get stabbed again they'll kill the whole team. They get stabbed, whole team dies. LOL Anything to do about this?

1. If the same players are being zombies every single time, they are not completing objective and purposefully getting tagged. We just established that is a no-no.

2. As for setting up a system, you do realize we have a system where the win ratio between humans and zombies effect the knockback etc.

3. If humans are knifing zombies towards humans to get them intentionally killed, exactly what money said.

4. No friendly zombies. Period.