Abuse in general.

[Rob]

Okay, im not talking about anyone in particular. so fuck format, right now.
this IS the right section seeing as it's about abuse.

this is mostly towards Zero, but whoever feels like replying, go for it.

because i am so sick of these fucking imbeciles, that don't know how to handle power. New admins should not have commands removed if they screw up repeatedly.
New admins, pretty fucking simple. use the ToS, probation 1 month, you fuck up twice. you're out, no refund. Simple, effective rules.

Now this shit with kenneth, He's been called abuser like what, 4 times now?
and now this NEW thread.
where he said he doesn't care about rules and all that shit, then, I'm hearing it was his brother and all that bullshit.

Seriously, accounts have passwords for reasons. you have admin, you have to be responsible for what happens on your shit.
he is one of the people ruining ZM. he's had multiple fuck ups, and hasn't learned from it yet.
kick his belgian fucking ass out of here.

every single of these retards that screw up repeatedly.

so what if we have less admins.
Who wants a hundred admins, if 99 of them suck and abuse the shit out of everyone and everything?
i want good admins, that know what the fuck they're doing.

and don't think money this time.
admins that fuck up, are going to cost players.
dumb admins -> no players -> no game-time. -> no one wanting to buy admin -> you lose the game.

Get this shit straightened out.

[Andrew_Pavlik]

Well I don't think all the blame can be put on Zero(not that you are BLAMING him)

I think he is trying to give some people the benefit of the doubt, in hopes they will be better. I mean at some point in some admins career they have had an abuse thread, bogus or not.

But the problem is that some of these admins 'abuse' their powers so much a lot of the new players almost accept this as the norm and then when they buy admin they don't see what the big deal is. (for this I blame people like blade(he has got a lot better) trazen and lord taz) And thats who people like kenneth and ness and cry wolf all saw be admins.

And a lot of these players don't know the rules either, like for instance, I guess Kenneth banned or kicked Hitman for pre-nuking?(I wasn't there, this is all hearsay) And sure if Hitman was pre-nuking that is wrong and what kenneth should have done was demo' or SS and post it, not ban him. But that night there were a lot of players on that didn't understand what Kenneth had done wrong, they don't understand the whole admin < clan member thing and if our admins arn't active on the forums they won't even know who the clan members or heck, the rules are!

What we need is something you mentioned, some sort of punishment system but this all can't fall on Zero, we need some 'admins' that admin the admins and dish out this punishment.

[Rob]

Well I don't think all the blame can be put on Zero(not that you are BLAMING him)

I think he is trying to give some people the benefit of the doubt, in hopes they will be better. I mean at some point in some admins career they have had an abuse thread, bogus or not.

But the problem is that some of these admins 'abuse' their powers so much a lot of the new players almost accept this as the norm and then when they buy admin they don't see what the big deal is. (for this I blame people like blade(he has got a lot better) trazen and lord taz) And thats who people like kenneth and ness and cry wolf all saw be admins.

And a lot of these players don't know the rules either, like for instance, I guess Kenneth banned or kicked Hitman for pre-nuking?(I wasn't there, this is all hearsay) And sure if Hitman was pre-nuking that is wrong and what kenneth should have done was demo' or SS and post it, not ban him. But that night there were a lot of players on that didn't understand what Kenneth had done wrong, they don't understand the whole admin < clan member thing and if our admins arn't active on the forums they won't even know who the clan members or heck, the rules are!

What we need is something you mentioned, some sort of punishment system but this all can't fall on Zero, we need some 'admins' that admin the admins and dish out this punishment.

No i'm not actually blaming zero, not at all. just to make that entirely clear.

but what you said, "you cant put all that on zero". unfortunately as far as i know zero is the only one able to restrict commands, cancel someones admin etc.
so IF we were to implement this admin administrating thing. We would need the older clan members, that have been among zero's side for ages. responsible ones. AND the ones that are actually active enough to monitor these things every other day, or few days a week (can't put too much stress on em). to get shit like this straightened out.
because admit it dude, i'm not the only one sick and tired of this shit.

[Andrew_Pavlik]

but what you said, "you cant put all that on zero". unfortunately as far as i know zero is the only one able to restrict commands, cancel someones admin etc.
so IF we were to implement this admin administrating thing. We would need the older clan members, that have been among zero's side for ages. responsible ones. AND the ones that are actually active enough to monitor these things every other day, or few days a week (can't put too much stress on em). to get shit like this straightened out.

I know he is, but it just sucks he as so much to do and now he has to look up logs of admin commands and be the sole decision maker. And I agree with the older clan members thing.[/QUOTE]

because admit it dude, i'm not the only one sick and tired of this shit.

Agreed, you are not.

[Hitman]

Umm...I never got banned by Kenneth...

I went into the ZM server after I heard Kenneth banned a player for pre-nuking. I talked to several players and he happened to never pre-nuke and so Kenneth was giving a bullshit report....

I proceeded to unban Pyro who was falsly banned and then I started to bitch at Kenneth for all his bullshit. He stated that I don't give a fuck and more.

He is already in hot water and will be dealt with soon. I believe Zero is going to review every single admin in the ZM and he's going to clean it up.

The ZM problems have gone on for far too long. Now since I got involved players are coming out of the woodworks and telling me everything. So no admin is safe from this fallout.

[Andrew_Pavlik]

Umm...I never got banned by Kenneth...

I went into the ZM server after I heard Kenneth banned a player for pre-nuking. I talked to several players and he happened to never pre-nuke and so Kenneth was giving a bullshit report....

I proceeded to unban Pyro who was falsly banned and then I started to bitch at Kenneth for all his bullshit. He stated that I don't give a fuck and more.

He is already in hot water and will be dealt with soon. I believe Zero is going to review every single admin in the ZM and he's going to clean it up.

The ZM problems have gone on for far too long. Now since I got involved players are coming out of the woodworks and telling me everything. So no admin is safe from this fallout.

Ahhh thats what I was told by several people later that night, well nvm then!

[Curdy]

well if he dont give a fuck as you say he wont mind having admin removed :P

[acolyte_to_jippity]

well if he dont give a fuck as you say he wont mind having admin removed :P

he stopped paying anyway. i don't know why he still has it. maybe zero just hasn't gotten around to removing it yet.

but am i the only one that kinda gets nervous when a shitty admin says the words "i don't really care anymore"

i still remember walter, dogbrother, and katana

[Andrew_Pavlik]

Ha, I remember dogbrother, I posted a ban request on him and during that thread he said he would just purchase admin and the rest is history.

[&&toasties]

He is still paying for it.

He said he was going to keep his admin because he wanted to keep the stupid people out, i.e. cade breakers, mic spammers, etc.

And this came straight from him.