Abuse in general.

[Rob]

Well I don't think all the blame can be put on Zero(not that you are BLAMING him)

I think he is trying to give some people the benefit of the doubt, in hopes they will be better. I mean at some point in some admins career they have had an abuse thread, bogus or not.

But the problem is that some of these admins 'abuse' their powers so much a lot of the new players almost accept this as the norm and then when they buy admin they don't see what the big deal is. (for this I blame people like blade(he has got a lot better) trazen and lord taz) And thats who people like kenneth and ness and cry wolf all saw be admins.

And a lot of these players don't know the rules either, like for instance, I guess Kenneth banned or kicked Hitman for pre-nuking?(I wasn't there, this is all hearsay) And sure if Hitman was pre-nuking that is wrong and what kenneth should have done was demo' or SS and post it, not ban him. But that night there were a lot of players on that didn't understand what Kenneth had done wrong, they don't understand the whole admin < clan member thing and if our admins arn't active on the forums they won't even know who the clan members or heck, the rules are!

What we need is something you mentioned, some sort of punishment system but this all can't fall on Zero, we need some 'admins' that admin the admins and dish out this punishment.

No i'm not actually blaming zero, not at all. just to make that entirely clear.

but what you said, "you cant put all that on zero". unfortunately as far as i know zero is the only one able to restrict commands, cancel someones admin etc.
so IF we were to implement this admin administrating thing. We would need the older clan members, that have been among zero's side for ages. responsible ones. AND the ones that are actually active enough to monitor these things every other day, or few days a week (can't put too much stress on em). to get shit like this straightened out.
because admit it dude, i'm not the only one sick and tired of this shit.