i'm all for trying to make something 'incredible' but at the same time saw absolutely nothing wrong with the main site. it no longer looks like the main site and the forums are run by the same people. hell, i thouhgt i had typed something wrong the first time i went to the new main site, and saw the white. the forums look awesome. the main site looked awesome. and it was all definatively IBIS. now, the forums still look awesome, but it looks like we're praying nobody ever sees the main site.