(Insert Steam ID here) Germans -- Wall Hacking

[&&toasties]

Good god, I had a long-winded post written in the case that I was banned without proof or notice.

I honestly don't care if I'm unbanned or not

So you admit to your hacking and knew I was onto you, so you already wrote a letter claiming you aren't? People who don't hack don't prepare themselves to be called hackers and are ready to defend themselves.

Then good, you and your hacks will stay banned.

[Naka]

yet, how does it help a non-wallhacking player?

.. I see you didn't get the main point to my post, I was following Mafia who was on knife level, and was hiding in the corners to wait for someone to knife. Reread my post, I don't want to revisit this "looking into walls" thing again. As I already tried to say, it's not a good argument in the first place.

So you admit to your hacking and knew I was onto you, so you already wrote a letter claiming you aren't? People who don't hack don't prepare themselves to be called hackers and are ready to defend themselves.

Then good, you and your hacks will stay banned.

No. I wrote up an unban request after I was banned from the server. I was prepared to post it, and then someone sent me the URL to this topic through steam.

No, I didn't have a response formulated before being banned, but if you're wondering, yes I knew some jerkoffs were "on to me", someone in chat said he was going to spectate me, and you were in spectator also watching me, which was apparent from your voice chat. I played as I always would have played CS:S, without hacks, I shouldn't have trusted your judgment, maybe I should have acted like a shit player instead.
Even if I did had a response made up before being banned, there's no way you could make the conclusion that I'm hacking.

I also see you quoted my "I honestly don't care if I'm unbanned or not". That's true, I don't play CS:S much anymore, this is more for your benefit, though I can see now that the outcome is looking grim.

[acolyte_to_jippity]

you didn't really explain the looking into the walls at all. you're just brushing it off. the fact is, looking into the walls would only hurt a normal player, but not a wallhacker.

[Naka]

you didn't really explain the looking into the walls at all. you're just brushing it off. the fact is, looking into the walls would only hurt a normal player, but not a wallhacker.

How is this brushing it off?

.. I see you didn't get the main point to my post, I was following Mafia who was on knife level, and was hiding in the corners to wait for someone to knife. Reread my post, I don't want to revisit this "looking into walls" thing again. As I already tried to say, it's not a good argument in the first place.

Not to mention the lengthy post I made earlier.

I explained that I was following mafia twice now.
Why?
He was on knife level,
I was following him
He was the one who went into corners
I was the one who followed him into the corners and
I was concentrating on his player

I even explained how it WOULD NOT benefit any common wallhacker,
or even a real vac-bannable wallhacker to be THAT BLATANT
I'm pretty sure I made it obvious that I'm not new enough to the game to stare into walls if I was hacking.

Are the scenes in your demo the ones we're talking about here? I feel like we're thinking of completely different things, because this is just nuts.


You shouldn't ban willy nilly if you think someone's wallhacking, It's VERY HARD to prove a good player has wallhacks, almost impossible, when it comes to skilled players, their reaction time is so small that it's nearly impossible to detect the difference between flinch-aim based on legit reaction and flinch-aim based on their knowledge as a wallhacker. This is common knowledge amongst competitive players. You can catch a wallhacker, but that's only if they're following people with their mouse through walls. You simply spectated for "hacks" long enough that situations eventually arise that look close enough to hacks.

I sent you a friends request (if you're ingame name is priest) I think it would be easier to discuss the demo on steam chat.
p.s. edit the title, my steam ID is STEAM_0:0:10940846

[Naka]

quote from:http://www.ibisgaming.com/forums/sho...php/6057-Mafia

I banned you and you're going to stay banned.

ONTOPIC:

Good catch Joker, he was next on my list.

I did befriend him, Mafia is a good guy, but I had a feeling he, too, was hacking.

And I agree with Wacko, wallhacks are very hard to catch. I had 4 different people watching Germans before I banned him, all agreed with me.

It's hard work, but we're trying.

"I banned you and you're going to stay banned." Isn't the sort of attitude an admin should have.
How am I supposed to prove that I'm not hacking when nobody will show me a scene where I am hacking? You people are also ignoring my explanations to your obscure comments.
You should know as well as anyone that there's no proof in numbers, now hurry up and give me a chance to prove my innocence, will you?

[brett friggin favre]

Three things here:

1. If you would like to be unbanned, post a thread in the Unban Me section of the forums. That's the only way to get anything done.

2. I honestly just don't see anything. Every single remotely questionable kill can be explained by radar usage, anticipation, sound, and good reactions.

3. Regarding toasties' attitude: she's an admin here, a respected and authoritative member of the community. If you are banned, the best thing to do is to make a post in the section previously stated, keeping it civil and emotionless, only giving facts and an explanation. In your initial post, even the slight negative attitude is a major put-off, and your attacks on an admin, provoked or not, are uncalled for at this time.

[Joker]

.. I see you didn't get the main point to my post, I was following Mafia who was on knife level, and was hiding in the corners to wait for someone to knife. Reread my post, I don't want to revisit this "looking into walls" thing again. As I already tried to say, it's not a good argument in the first place.


No. I wrote up an unban request after I was banned from the server. I was prepared to post it, and then someone sent me the URL to this topic through steam.

No, I didn't have a response formulated before being banned, but if you're wondering, yes I knew some jerkoffs were "on to me", someone in chat said he was going to spectate me, and you were in spectator also watching me, which was apparent from your voice chat. I played as I always would have played CS:S, without hacks, I shouldn't have trusted your judgment, maybe I should have acted like a shit player instead.
Even if I did had a response made up before being banned, there's no way you could make the conclusion that I'm hacking.

I also see you quoted my "I honestly don't care if I'm unbanned or not". That's true, I don't play CS:S much anymore, this is more for your benefit, though I can see now that the outcome is looking grim.

umm this might be a little off topic, but for some one that doesn't care if they get unbanned or not sure seems to be oftly persistant in trying to get unbanned.........am I the only one that noticed that?

[devour]

the demos loko clean to me. brett said it best on how to handle the situation