Mafia

[Joker]

Player : Mafia
Reason for ban : wall hacking
Length of ban : Perma
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The first demo is the best one it's really obvious with in the first few minutes

[Naka]

... The second demo showed absolutely nothing.. The third was even worse.
The first had a single wallhack-looking moment when he threw the grenade at the beginning, the rest is very inconclusive, he didn't even have a gun to aim with, there should have been way more evidence with him having an actual weapon, the evidence where he DOES have a weapon is useless.
Tell me I'm wrong about mafia2.dem and mafia3.dem, what were they supposed to show?

[Joker]

no your not wrong demo's 2 and 3 i didn't see anything either but than i looked over the first one and it was completely obvious

[Naka]

Ok good, I was thinking for sure I've gone crazy.

The first one doesn't look like hacks to me honestly, if I were to claim someone was hacking I'd want to see a demo of him with a real weapon out, when he had a knife and grenade, his tactics of facing walls was completely legit. He likely watches his radar for teammates death, and goes in for the swoop. Looking towards walls gives him the advantage of not having his weapon stick by crates, not to mention there's no wall-looking when he actually has a weapon out. Should I watch it again?

Offtopic: Will you review my demo again? I'm waiting for whoever banned me to get on the ball. name: germans

[brett friggin favre]

Looks like walls to me. Usually it can be tough to tell on deagle but that sure didn't look legit. Good catch and good call on the ban.

[wack0]

wall-hacking is a very difficult thing to catch. unless it's really super obvious I suggest getting a second, third, and maybe even fourth opinion before banning someone for it. remember, the goal is to keep people playing on the servers, not ban everyone from them.

[&&toasties]

Ok good, I was thinking for sure I've gone crazy.

The first one doesn't look like hacks to me honestly, if I were to claim someone was hacking I'd want to see a demo of him with a real weapon out, when he had a knife and grenade, his tactics of facing walls was completely legit. He likely watches his radar for teammates death, and goes in for the swoop. Looking towards walls gives him the advantage of not having his weapon stick by crates, not to mention there's no wall-looking when he actually has a weapon out. Should I watch it again?

Offtopic: Will you review my demo again? I'm waiting for whoever banned me to get on the ball. name: germans

I banned you and you're going to stay banned.

ONTOPIC:

Good catch Joker, he was next on my list.

I did befriend him, Mafia is a good guy, but I had a feeling he, too, was hacking.

And I agree with Wacko, wallhacks are very hard to catch. I had 4 different people watching Germans before I banned him, all agreed with me.

It's hard work, but we're trying.

[Joker]

I banned you and you're going to stay banned.

ONTOPIC:

Good catch Joker, he was next on my list.

I did befriend him, Mafia is a good guy, but I had a feeling he, too, was hacking.

And I agree with Wacko, wallhacks are very hard to catch. I had 4 different people watching Germans before I banned him, all agreed with me.

It's hard work, but we're trying.

Just an F.Y.I. I suspected him, but if it wasn't for Jerm saying that he didn't seem legit it just confirmed my suspisions, so I went into the server and started to see if I could catch him in the act.
just thought I would point that out.