Console Systems

[ManBearPig <ibis>]

Yo i got to say i love starwars also.

[Vladninja]

Yep StarWars rocks... cant wait for Diablo 3 either (though we have what a year maybe two)... also wondering if anyone here is planning on buying "Left 4 Dead"!?! Got my pre order done today...

[[IBIS Noob]Soy Sauce]

Dude Left 4 Dead looks sick, sadly i can't get a pre order thing.
I guess i will have to wait till the "Need/Want" for the game dies down.

Also when are they updated source? Or did they? because i heard they are updating source, but i have no clue when.

[ManBearPig <ibis>]

Diablo3 and starcraft 2 are totally going to make me come when they come out.

[D1lD0]

In terms of Quality games and 3rd party liscensing, the consoles are as follows

ps3 < wii < xbox360

The 360 basically has a liscensing monopoly. Especially considering the next Final Fantasy and Resident Evil are coming to the 360. GTA4 came out for the 360 at the same time as ps3. Xbox's online service is better and more stable (which is why they charge a monthly fee).

But in all honesty PC > all cuz pretty much every game that comes out on a console comes out on pc as well. You can use 360 controller on the pc now, you have more options regarding video quality. I dunno about the ps3 but the wii and 360 and all consoles before it render the graphics at no higher than 800x600 resolution without hd.

As for expensive HD tv's. Goto gamestop or walmart or something. Buy the adapter that allows you to hook the 360 up to your LCD monitor you use for your comp. Goto console options and change the resolution to the reccomended for your LCD and see how HUGE the changes to video quality are.

Edit: I think the adapter works with CRT monitors as well but the only CRT monitors I've seen the cables that come with it cannot be removed by conventional methods so there's no actual way to hook it up to it. But I havent bought a new CRT in over 6 years so I cant be sure.

[ManBearPig <ibis>]

What i want to do is get a flat screen and hook my computer up to it but also have my cable TV on it. Ill keep the monitor on my desk, but i want to have the choice of switching to the flat screen on the wall behind my computer. Anyone want to post good links that would give me the ability to do this.

[deaf]

we (my clan) actually had a pretty good topic on it because i wanted to hook up my wii to my monitor in res so i dont hafta find a tv.
http://forums.foca-cs.com/index.php?...0&#entry196214
check it out and hopefully you can find something you like

[Fish]

In terms of Quality games and 3rd party liscensing, the consoles are as follows

ps3 < wii < xbox360

ROFL!!! You cant be serious. I own a Wii and a PS3. The quality of games for any of the 3 is debate at best since people like different things. I dont care for COD 4352623456 or whichever one it is on. Halo 1 and 2 sucked balls IMO so why play 3?? I also liked it better when it was called Unreal Tournament. Nintendo cant get third party support to save its life. People dont want to program for it. Some dont want to program for PS3 either since it is more difficult due to its superior setup. MS got the head start with the 360 (really shows when you look at fail rate doesnt it?) and developers got comfy.

The 360 basically has a liscensing monopoly. Especially considering the next Final Fantasy and Resident Evil are coming to the 360. GTA4 came out for the 360 at the same time as ps3. Xbox's online service is better and more stable (which is why they charge a monthly fee).

MS is trying to buy everything. It bought the DLC for GTA4, however failed at releasing it. It will be out next year. WOohoo. I beat it 2 weeks after I bought it and havent touched it since. After playing MGS4 I dont care to. Also, FF is still being developed as a PS3 exclusive then going to be ported over later. But also do not forget, Square is releasing another version for PS3 that will have more content then the standard and that IS a PS3 exclusive. Sony also has dedicated servers for its online where as MS does not. Sonys online is getting better. With the release of Home, MS will really have to think of something to keep up.

But in all honesty PC > all cuz pretty much every game that comes out on a console comes out on pc as well. You can use 360 controller on the pc now, you have more options regarding video quality. I dunno about the ps3 but the wii and 360 and all consoles before it render the graphics at no higher than 800x600 resolution without hd.

Alot of games do come to PC, but not all of them. None of the Metal Gear games have ever come to PC. I dont think Kojima cares to port it to anything else. He has been in bed with sony since 98 when he released MGS1 on PSX. I dont know what the res is on PS3 without HD, so I cannot answer that.

As for expensive HD tv's. Goto gamestop or walmart or something. Buy the adapter that allows you to hook the 360 up to your LCD monitor you use for your comp. Goto console options and change the resolution to the reccomended for your LCD and see how HUGE the changes to video quality are.

This is a good idea, but I also use my PS3 as a DVD player since it upconverts standard DVDs along with playing blu rays. It DOES make a difference with standard. Im not watching a movie on my 17 or 19 inch monitor. Might as well fap it to a 1980s playboy.

PS3 has no games coming out. And The Star Wars game is out also for Xbox 360?

PS3 has quite a few games coming out that have sparked my interest. IMO, Id say 360 doesnt have any exclusives that catch my eye.

And yeah, I prefer the 360. I have a 360 Elite... the games on the 360 are better than PS3 games. PS3 has better graphics but they have no games. Live for PS3 is free but it's shit... compared to 360 Live. Also, I prefer the 360 Controller over the PS3 controller (Six-Axis). The Six Axis controller weighs like 1/10 of a pound and feels like cheap plastic. The dual shock is heavier and feels better but I still prefer the 360 Controller. The major difference (In my eyes) is that the 360 has better games then PS3.

4 months ago when I was researching next gen consoles, I looked at elites and PS3s. The two big concerns were games, and overall strength of the system. I am more of an RPG player and dont really care to play war games. That is what CS is for me. MGS4, Final Fantasy, and the ability to play my Chrono Trigger for PS1 really sparked my interest for games. It was a no brainer for the game department. Online, meh. I have a computer. Ive done games on PSN (MGS and GTA) and they were fun, but nothing really kept me coming back. The six axis controler is just what I want it to be. light and sturdy. I have 3 of them so I actually was trying to bend and break one to see how much abuse it could take. Still works to this day. I am not a fan of MS controllers, although they have gotten better. (you can tell who designed the dreamcast controller when MS and Sega teamed up. LOL) Sony has also released the trophy system for games as well so its up to the developers to get rewards online now.

FABLE 2 comes out October 21st. I'm going to pre-order the game and I'm gonna wait outside when it comes out. My favourite game of all time = Fable: The Lost Chapters.

Never played Fable, but I heard it was a decent game.

Xbox Live is like 8.99 for 1 month or something and 59.99 for 1 year... I can't quite remember... but it is pretty cheap.

That is cheap, but its just another MS expense. As Zero and others stated. PC online is free.

Another touchy subject that 360 owners hate being brought up is fail rate. That was part of my second biggest concern with a new gen console. The red ring of death (RRoD) rate is 40% on first run consoles. That is just out right wrong. If it was not for MS losing MILLIONS of dollars for the 3 year extended warranty, there would have been lawsuits. Im suprised no one has tried to think of a way around it. MS blamed the chips and said they would fix it. The new Falcon chipset does help it run cooler, but fail rate is still at a very unacceptable 25%. If I want to experience a failure, I want it to be my fault cause I was attempting to mod the console. MS shot themselves in the foot by releasing their console a year early. They thought they could get a huge head start and didnt worry about long term testing. They would have realized that the case itself is a problem with heat. It has nowhere to go. Now, Nintendo has flown by MS sales, and Sony is catching up. Great move MS.

To finish this mini novel, Ill touch on HDD space. Since Xbox is bound by the laws of Bill Gates, the only way to have a big HDD is to either buy the elite, or purchase a MS HDD for a stupid amount of money. Or, do what I did. Bought a used 40 gig PS3 for $350 and not be worried about a failure. Then purchase a 250 gig SATA 2.5 laptop HD for $80, spend 3 minutes installing, wala. Over twice the HD space of an elite, and still cheaper. Sony put the PS3s OS on a separate internal drive so no software installing required. The PS takes care of the rest.

To the OP, since you have an original Xbox, find a mod chip and install a huge HDD in it and you can play emulators on it. Thats what I did with my original one. Had a crap load of NES, SNES, Genesis, even arcade games. You can also copy original Xbox games to the HDD and never need the disk again. Ran up a decent tab at Blockbuster doing that, but it was cheaper in the long run.

[Steamer]

Not to mention useing it for a Media Center.