Rice and Chicken Permanently banned for Wall Hacking

[maynard]

did not include the sb_status required to report to steam

.... oi

either way though if demo 1 is clear signs of hacking well.. then he should be gone. look forward 2 your final verdict. given the fact he's already been bannd by 2 diff clan memebrs now on 2 diff IBIS servers for the same reason... and the fact you said demo 1 is clear signs of hacking... lol ya... R I P Hacker.

do the sourceTV's do sb_status?

lets hope so.

[BaL-|-imore]

you represent the regulars what?
All of the regs are saying rice shouldnt be perma'd if he is hacking what?

Bal, do not project YOUR feelings on everyone else. Also Hacking against Hackers does not by ANY stretch of the imagination make it OK as he was killing everyone, not the suspected Hacker.

Well, let's see....you've got a pub#1 rank 0.

Anyways, I really don't give two shits about Rice one way or the other, but I have been getting plenty of PM's from many real regulars who agree he should be punished but disagree that he should be perma ban'd.

I just thought their voice deserved to be expressed...as well as everyone else here who's voiced their opinion on the matter. I think this all contributes to allowing Zero to make the best decision.

But, I agree with you COMPLETELY that hacking against hackers does not make it OK. I would completely disagree with not giving some sort of severe punishment, be it perma ban or long but temporary ban, etc.

[ricochet]

Rice tended to only hack others “in the game” i.e.) other hackers and abusive admins.

Baltimore, your assumptions are flat out wrong. I was the victim of Rice and Chicken many times. I don't consider myself to be abusive and I'd like to consider myself a respected regular in the servers. I DID NOT appreciate being on the short end of his bullshit stick.

wacko was also a victim in one of the demo's I posted. I have no doubt you were also. Rice hacked when no one was paying attention. When someone did pay attention, he stopped or just F'd around as was seen in the demo's. Then, when no one was watching again, he was off to the races.

There's only one way to deal with someone who's been banned now three times (2 in the pub and one in GG) and that's to permanently ban the Mother F'r!

Zero,

Clear signs of walling, watched with and without mat_wireframe, no sb_status included in demo
Appears to be walling at the start looking at where the other team went, sb_stats included
Nothing
Just saw him breaking rules via camping
Showed that he knows how to play cs:s
Possible walls or good timing
Nothing
Showed that he can hear sound.
So from what I saw the only decent demo only showed 1 instance and did not include the sb_status required to report to steam bans. I am also reviewing source tv demos that I have and will post those up with a final review.

The sb_status IS in the rice+chick1 demo. Look in the console right after the Double Doors awping moment. It's there, I just verified it.

Ah so I found the source tv demo that also has the sb status in it for submission. Based off the demos I have seen and there were some other source tv demos I reviewed as well it appears that he toggles wall hacks. As a result it is the determination to upgrade this ban to a perma ban from all servers. The attached demo will also be sent to steam bans to ensure that other servers and communities will be protected.

Awesome.

Thanks, Zero.

See kiddies, hard work DOES pay off. Get the right demo's and it's a done deal.

[BaL-|-imore]

I concede, the verdict is Just.

I tend to take a devil's advocate position on discussions.



...Game On!

[usmc../ fetty]

hahaha finally i knew the fag has hacked and jus never demoed because if i went spec or nething he wouldnt do shit hed be an idiot....but anyways rice is a whiney little bitch and i could give a fuck less what happened as long as i dont have to get a im on steam every two minutes about someone hackin especially lazyy its the most annoying fuckin thin at any random givin time of my day for him to post 7 million times!


fuck u rice and have a good day

[acolyte_to_jippity]

its the most annoying fuckin thin at any random givin time of my day for him to post 7 million times!

wait, wut?

[lazyotwn]

I just want to say that I don't think I've ever said more than two words to Rice. And I don't have him on my friend list either. I'm sure most of the people who play with me often will say that I barely talk to anyone when I'm in the server. But yea, him accusing me of providing him with a website is a complete and total farce. I do recall even providing my opinion to a couple of the admins on the question of whether Rice hacked or not.

I've played CS for a retarded long time, and I don't make a habit of accusing people of hacking unless I'm 99% sure (walls are pretty ambiguous and alot of the time you can't ever be 100% sure unless you are at the person's house watching them play). I know how much it can suck to be falsely accused of hacking, as it has happened to me for years. Unfortunately most people's default reaction to getting their shit pushed in on a video game; is to invalidate the other person.

Anywho, I'm not sure why he chose to try and drag my name through the mud, and to be honest I don't really care. Peace out homeslice.

[fLoSs]

sigh.... honesly i dont think that half of the people in here have hacked in the past or are currently, that's just something some retard that was "curious" would say because he has in the past. i have no need, or curiousity of hacks, and it's quite simple to call someone on hacks when you've been playing as long as some of us have... when someone peaks a door directly to an enemy 3 times in a row when there is no FUCKING way they would have known that they would be there (when talking about sniping of course) you pretty much KNOW it's bogus. I've been called on hacks on numerous occasions and yea for a while i'm like sweet that means i got some skill for some retard to call me on hacks, but it gets old after a while... lol about 3 or 4 yrs ago i had a guy (meAtfAce was his name) demo me for like a month while i murdered people on one of the old sourceinvite pub servers, then perma banned me... i went to their formum, posted about it, and before the next day their owner posted, sorry bro... i watched the first 5 of his video's and looks like you're just dominating.... and that meAtfAce guy got his admin removed for apparently not knowing dick. what a great day that was... lol

and once again restated.. rice was a whiney cock most of the time anyway, fuck that kid

edit: also on lazytown, i've been in the server specing him while people were calling him on hacks and he was eating people... everything i saw was legit... i have never really talked to lazy before nor do i really know him, but i have seen no reason to accuse him of hacking (and i really really doubt he gave a site to rice), he just pulls off some bogus shots sometimes lol. after the ammount of cal i've done and countless countless scrims, i've met some crazy good people on this game, and i've seen most of any kind of hacker... you just gota know what to look for. i think that that faggot rice was just looking to take someone he didnt like down with him, especially someone that could kill him while he was wallin rofl... (given he's not CRAZY good or anything, just occasionally lucky lol, and i'm sure it pissed off that QQing rice kid)

[ricochet]

zero,

what say you?

[ZERO]

As I said before I get back late on Tuesdays. Finished my tests and looks like I did well. I am going to get a good night sleep and tomorrow I have a short day. So I will be reviewing all the demos then

I take this seriously and that is why I will not review it until I can do it properly. I will even pull back logged source tv demos if I need. So keep your pants on I am going to be looking these over soon.