Building a computer.

[StarsMine]

why would anyone recomend a 460 SE is beyond me, card is WORSE the 768MB version except at resolutions higher then 1080

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-600-_-Product

or get a 6850, more powerfull then both, just not as powerfull as a 460 1 gig
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-908-_-Product

Why spend so much on a PSU when you are putting such low power parts into the system?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817341016

a cheaper case choice http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811119227


and with those cuts, you can squeeze enough for this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115072 so you can actually OC your CPU

[ZERO]

If you want a lowercost psu switch to this one then:
PSU

PPCS500D
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817703016
69

---------- Post added at 02:25 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:23 PM ----------

Fuck, this always happens. Anyways the point is to stick with the PC Power and Cooling Units. Power is one thing to never skimp on and they have the best quality (yes I know OZC owns them however the ocz brand ones are not made at the same place or tested to the same standards or given the same warranty)

---------- Post added at 02:33 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:25 PM ----------

Also nice on the gpu I have not read the benchmarks so I did not know about the difference with the SE. The other case is likely fine too, the other was a recommendation I made to someone else who needed a long term case for the rest of their life.

As for spending the extra money on that cpu I am not sure if it will be worth it for him. While yes it will improve the time for processing effects it may be better spent on more HDD space for images and possibly raid to protect his files. These both would have greater benefits to his primary tasks. Also to really be able to OC he would need to still upgrade his cooling for it to be stable in the long run. As a result it may be better for that to be a longer term upgrade if he finds his current cpu holding him down. By then the price up the upgrade may be lower and he may even be able to recycle the old parts into another system or something.

[StarsMine]

well with an OC capable chip, he can spend 50 bucks instead of 500 (new mobo and cpu) to upgrade, simply by OC an extra ghz

[ZERO]

My point was that he could just by that chip in the future at greatly reduced cost.
He could even buy a used one and or sell his one off used too. People sell used parts like that all the time on the extreme systems forums.

[Steamer]

Single 12v Rail FTW!

NEVER skimp on the PSU.

I currently use this one. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139005
Run's sooo smooth. No dipping, No spiking at extreme stress. One of the best PSU's I have ever bought. Corsair has made themselves a new customer as far as PSU's go.

Zero's case recomendation, +1. Long life and very durable, Lian Li make very quality cases.

I currently STILL use my Antec P182. Nice sleek quality box. Amazing. The thing is a tank though, Do not recomend if you are going to tote it around.

[StarsMine]

Steamer, if the PSU is made well it does not matter if its a single rail or 6. It will provide power to your parts without problems.

I also never said skimp on the PSU, however spending 200 bucks on one for a <400W system is beyond stupid.

Get the right PSU for your system, most are most efficient at 60-75% load.

[ZERO]

Yea until you read in the fin print that the unit is only rated for that output at 60F, oh wait they would not print that shit now would they. What we are saying is yes buy a PSU for your load (although you could just buy one and never replace it...) but make sure that you get one of high quality and with a good warranty. If you do plan to overclock you will need a good psu. At minimum just make sure that it has Active PFC.

[Steamer]

Steamer, if the PSU is made well it does not matter if its a single rail or 6. It will provide power to your parts without problems.

While true, it also waste's power overtime and is not as efficient or reliable. In the long run you may actually lose money.

On a single rail system you have power being pulled from that rail alone and all power needed is being used.

On a multi rail system all the power being allocated is not used. IE: 36 amps to CPU on rail 1 and 2 but CPU is only calling for 22 amps, the left over amps can not be used by the GPU, it must be pulled off another rail. Such a dirty system.

A well made single rail design will outperform any multi rail design.

Because of today's safety standards (20 amps per wire), most multi rail PSU's are actually single rail units with split 12v current limit circuitry.

If you do go with a (fake) multi rail system, make sure it has Active PFC and EVERY "rail" is OCP protected (current limit protection [over-current] ).

If you go single rail, make sure it is a quality piece.

Either way you ARE buying a single rail system. If your buy has more than one rail you best make sure it has OCP to each or you just bought a pile of junk.