The news is in sadly im never going to return.

[Hodgie]

Wouldn't it be finished when no troops are dying? Isn't progress a measure of how close you are to your end goal? I don't only view it in terms of the death toll though. The fact that we're diverting more troops to afghanistan helps to show the current situation in Iraq.


Maybe I'm coming across as too argumentative. I understand and completely respect the fact that people have their own views. I don't expect you to agree with mine and really there isn't a "right" or "wrong" way to interpret the facts... as long as you have the facts right.

[Stamp]

Wouldn't it be finished when no troops are dying? Isn't progress a measure of how close you are to your end goal? I don't only view it in terms of the death toll though. The fact that we're diverting more troops to afghanistan helps to show the current situation in Iraq.


Maybe I'm coming across as too argumentative. I understand and completely respect the fact that people have their own views. I don't expect you to agree with mine and really there isn't a "right" or "wrong" way to interpret the facts... as long as you have the facts right.

Facts cannot be right or wrong, they are just actual occurrences of reality. Facts can be "considered" true in other contexts based on any testing or research done to "prove" something to be true or factual. If a fact is wrong, is it indeed then not a fact, or a myth, hoax, or miss-assumption?

As for the whole situation, it's not my place to comment. Only time will tell and the measure of progression is all in the eye(s) of the beholder.

[ZERO]

If you measured progress in war by no deaths than no war has ever been one and the south should have it's own country...

[ZERO]

I love how no one likes to talk about what they thought about the war when it started, only how now they decided it was bad and so we must leave. Well guess what, if we did fuck up as many of us believe, if we did just invade a nation for no reason then we better keep sending people over there until the shit it as close to the way it was as possible. On the other hand, if they were a threat and they no longer are one and we attacked them for just reasons than yea we should leave maybe it will teach other nations that threaten us what happens when they cross the line.

But yea, if we destroyed a nation for no reason do we not have a responsibility as a nation to fix our mess. If what a lot of you believe is true we created this and it is our duty to fix it.

Also anyone that is determining what our military should and should not do based on if they get killed they are a fool. In war people die that was true before the war and it will be afterword.

Here is some food for thought: In Vietnam "civilians" were fighting for the enemy, if they were killed shooting at us they were military but if we shot them the night before they were a civilian death... Civilian casualties will always be part of war and even more so when your enemy is civilians.

[ManBearPig <ibis>]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8_wr0tGP_0

[-=NYS=- C.O.]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8_wr0tGP_0

Now that was random. LoL

[deprodigy]

ok we fucked up... let fix it. nuke em!

[Rapedollar$]

we are doing a lot of good over there... i dont care what you think you may know... what you see in the media is never the truth... all the biases and skewed opinions about how we are helping these people makes me laugh when some start arguments and know nothing about what really goes on there... if you want to know the true good we are doing there, go there.

if you do, and dont see the truth, at least you can leave with a killer tan...