Zombie Knife Kill Exploit

[Penis シ]

Oh I agree with you, that he's a fucked up person, Maynard. When I posted those, I was, first, under the false belief that this was an isolated incident, second, under the belief that he was apologetic for his actions.

Seeing those stat jumps, and knowing, now that he did it like that, well that pisses me off too. I've worked long and hard on my gg stats, even took a screenshot when a 5 game winning streak took me to 5th place and made a thread about it. If someone in gg were to do something similar, I'd be unbelievably pissed.

And with that, I retract my defense. I was wrong about the facts and this guy is scum.

[NakedSaturday]

I never expressed that I wish to leave this community, I only stated that based on the actions I had taken through the use of my admin powers that I would be relinquishing them as to prevent myself from further mishaps. I would also like to state that this exploit was discovered on the day in question and had never been used prior. I would also like to clarify with maynard that i could not in fact hear most of what blade was saying, through no fault of his mic, but because of the server in general, as it appears the demo does not support this claim, you may feel free to ask anyone who regularly plays in that server that at any given time there are instances where some people can not clearly hear others as the audio stream becomes choppy and incoherent, hence why on multiple occasions while blade was trying to explain to me the situation I was asking him to type it out.

[Evil]

Why do so many people care about stats? They seriously don't mean anything. They certainly don't mean your the best player in the world/server or something. In my opinion, stats are just worthless and pointless. But, in the other hand, some people actually care about stats, which is fine because then there can be some competition. But when someone takes competition and just takes it way to fucking seriously, it just ruins the fun part of the game. Just giving my thoughts.

[NLA]

Morning 'gents.

I'm a little offended you guys would outright permban me without checking on my side of this sordid tale.

I wasn't even aware this was a major issue. I joined during that map with the daft punk sounds (NOT predator as psychostats states, because psychostats doesn't always immediately apply points during the current game) and Naked mentioned that he had been earning a shitpile of points from kills, I asked him how he was doing it and what map, and he mentioned that Hey! Look! There's an AFK over there! Check it out, Ness! Go knife 'em! and so I did, and then a large number of points were obtained not just by myself but probably 6-7 other people that aren't mentioned in the OP post. It didn't really occur to me that this wasn't OK.. I wasn't really thinking. I had just taken a final for one of my summer courses and I was a bit burnt out. A minute or so after the orgy of zombie point gathering, Naked explained that he had the power to change players from zombie to human at will. Which means these are admin-related abuses, not map glitches or player exploits. I caused none of this. Then he said that he only tried this sort of stuff out on AFK's and that he was doing pretty well rank-wise with this system.

We went to Predator, Naked did the same thing. I didn't play much in Predator because hl2.exe kept crashing (), but I remember spec'ing and seeing Naked obviously switch zombies to human in the player cage towards the end of the map resulting in another 6-7 person orgy of zombie point gathering. I wasn't involved in this one I think. Like I said, the points that show up in Psychostats for this map were actually obtained in the previous map and applied during this map. Then we went to stargate escape, I played normally for a while, Naked did the same thing again on one of the AFK's, Blade showed up, party ended.

I'd also like to point out that before playing with Saturday yesterday that I wasn't even aware this sort of exploitation could be done or was possible. It was all news to me when Naked mentioned it. I was basically a naive participant in all of this.

I would also like to clarify with maynard that i could not in fact hear most of what blade was saying, through no fault of his mic, but because of the server in general, as it appears the demo does not support this claim, you may feel free to ask anyone who regularly plays in that server that at any given time there are instances where some people can not clearly hear others as the audio stream becomes choppy and incoherent, hence why on multiple occasions while blade was trying to explain to me the situation I was asking him to type it out.

This is actually the truth, not sure why you guys are calling Naked out on this point. We all know the ZM server has issues, and if you check the server logs Naked did ask Blade to type things out, and I was having the same audio problem on my end.

And I'd like to go ahead and point out that you're all acting a bit butthurt over this. Calling us scum and snakes and horrible, terrible people, how we're lying that we couldn't hear Blade over mic, how we deserve to be permbanned etc. On the one hand you tell Naked to act like a better admin and have respect for the community and the system, and on the other hand you're forming a lynchmob and throwing tantrums over a relatively minor and easily reversible offense. I expect better from all of you. You have the logs right there of the point value changes over the day from psychostats, so just deduct the points that were obviously earned through exploitation and this whole debacle is settled.

I'm not sure about Naked, but I've been playing with you guys for years, and I even admin'd with you guys for a while. I never abused my admin powers when I had them (despite what a couple of forum threads may argue), and up until now I've never exploited the point system for psychostats in any way. I'd like to think I've been a good enough player for long enough that this mess -- which was not even directly caused by me -- can be amended and we can go back to the way things were. I'm a good player. Naked is a good player but maybe not the best admin. But it just seems so strange to me to permban good players.

And believe it or not, I did earn my pre-Naked rank of 49 entirely through legitimate kills as a player through casual, honest gameplay over a year or so, without exploits, and I'm kinda proud of that.

[maynard]

you should have reported what naked was doing, you didn't... and that makes you just as guilty as naked... and if blade didn't catch you guys in the act, you would most likely not even said anything. the second you saw what he was doing you should have said something, but ya didn't and you really only have yourself 2 blame. the fact you've been around for years only further hurts you given you know damn well what our community rules are and that what naked was doing is not allowed and just flat out wrong.

you were both band till I could figure the situation out, as I was taking in the many conversations I was having with people about the issue, and being shown evidence that clearly showed you guys cheating, I saw no reason for you guys 2 be on the server till things were sorted out. given naked has removed his tag and admits what he did was wrong and is giving up admin, I will remove the ban. I highly suggest not fucking around again as zero still needs 2 review this situation and any further abuse or problems caused will result in a boot up the ass.

I Was informed it's possible that you guys couldn't hear blade due 2 the server, so ill give you guys the benefit of the doubt on that 1.... It's still complete BS what you guys were doing, but I wont hold the voice thing over your heads.

[Evil]

There was also another admin doing the same thing that Saturday was doing yesterday.........

[acolyte_to_jippity]

never mind about this entire post. i was still under the impression it was a glitch, and not just him switching peoples's teams.

[Evil]

evil, are you talking about sinsanity?

nope. not him.

[acolyte_to_jippity]

nope. not him.

well then, who?

it's normally more helpful if you post the name, so we can watch for it

[Evil]

well then, who?

it's normally more helpful if you post the name, so we can watch for it

Chris Young. He was doing it with Saturday as well. He did it yesterday, when he found out from Saturday.