Clarity, and Ideas for the Gungame

[Rezel]

Link, I believe you have a very good point with your statement, there seems to be quite a bit of discrepancy with the exploits that are being used, and how admins are handling these abuses.

There is a good bit of ideas incoming to this topic, keep them coming; Just remember this is a topic is more pointed towards getting a list of rules on the forums to better the experience for the server.

[Andrew_Pavlik]

I agree with a lot link has said, if you TK during nade or after round, your taking a risk, so I just only TK people I know that won't slay me. As for the nade round, sometimes its harder because you are just throwing grenades at will and blindly but with that said, just go to the other time and knife them.

Also camping isn't against the rules unless it's excessive, I think this is something that a select group of admins just need to learn to live with.(unless we decide on a new rule).

Of course other rules that need to be said, no leaving and re-joining to gain levels that might be the only GG related rule I think of that isn't a blanket rule for all the servers.

[Steamer]

What you forget is people intentionally run into a group of nades trying to get a knife off the other team during warm up and there is no way to avoid it.

How about this... Make it simple... Starting today I will ignore warm up round and do nothing. It's worthless and does not warm you up for shit besides getting a TK punishment. Punishment should be removed on warm up all together.

CT runs from a knife fight to get T slayed, slay CT, Even.. Done. No if this could be worked in auto without an admin slaying, that would be even better.

As far as camping... I don't regard it as excessive unless it is wasting peoples time. I will continue to camp as strategically as I can without wasting other players time, be it the same spot or not. It isn't my fault "you" can't kill me when I'm in the same spot ever time (even without wasting time), that's "your" stupidity and lack of skill.

The leaving / level function pertaining to keeping same level in map I have seen in other servers, while allowing newcomers to be handicapped. Great Idea Link.
(I will not lie, I have left server before to be handicapped. Yet I knew I wouldn't win nor was trying to, sometimes the scout or awp gets really fucking boring. lol)

Twisting other players name's to disrespect them is enforceable with punishment. Using a racist or offending name (or being racist without directing it towards another) no matter your personal opinion is NOT enforceable and is allowed, you should do nothing about it and if you do you therefore have abused your administrative powers. This is no grey area, as said many times over by Zero himself. This is not up to your discretion. As goes for ALL IBIS servers. This is no rule that needs to be added to GG, there is one in place universally. No flame intended, just stating fact.

[Rezel]

I have compiled a List of ideas for rules - I will add to the top post as ideas start popping up to see if we can get a working draft!

[Link]

I don't want to get too off topic, so I'll just reply with a tiny bit to Steamer.

Regarding that player in question, I asked a few other admins what they thought and I became convinced that asking him to change his name wasn't unreasonable. After that, he became hostile and went on a team attacking spree, as his namesake. But you have a point nonetheless. :P I must be on drugs because I don't picture myself saying that..xD


Back to topic. haha.

like i said the main things I've seen disregarded are the handicap exploit, and the punishing for camping. it's a work in progress heh

[Rezel]

What you forget is people intentionally run into a group of nades trying to get a knife off the other team during warm up and there is no way to avoid it.

OK, then we will have to either do what I said below, or add more detail to clarify.

How about this... Make it simple... Starting today I will ignore warm up round and do nothing. It's worthless and does not warm you up for shit besides getting a TK punishment. Punishment should be removed on warm up all together.

So your basically saying that we should remove the warmup round because it does nothing?

CT runs from a knife fight to get T slayed, slay CT, Even.. Done. No if this could be worked in auto without an admin slaying, that would be even better.

hmm not having it as a rule, and just having it implemented through a script would work fine, but the issue is its another mod for the server to handle.

The leaving / level function pertaining to keeping same level in map I have seen in other servers, while allowing newcomers to be handicapped. Great Idea Link.
(I will not lie, I have left server before to be handicapped. Yet I knew I wouldn't win nor was trying to, sometimes the scout or awp gets really fucking boring. lol)

I can understand where you are coming from on the guns getting boring but it kind of ruins the point if you can just skip over the guns you are having the hard time with. This would not remove the handicap whatsoever, but it would stop players who have already been playing from rejoining and gaining a new gun to skip something they were having a hard time with.

Twisting other players name's to disrespect them is enforceable with punishment. Using a racist or offending name (or being racist without directing it towards another) no matter your personal opinion is NOT enforceable and is allowed, you should do nothing about it and if you do you therefore have abused your administrative powers. This is no grey area, as said many times over by Zero himself. This is not up to your discretion. As goes for ALL IBIS servers. This is no rule thaneeds to be added to GG, there is one in place universally. No flame intended, just stating fact.

Then we will have to go into more detail involving that particular rule so that it clearly states everything.

[Nemesis]

you guys are missing the point of the warm up round. it's there to give everyone a chance to connect to the server before the game starts so you dont have the first round with 3 people and have 20 watching.

[Rezel]

Yeah, I know nemesis; thats why I added it as a rule to go against slaying team killing, but I think we might have to go into more details to clarify as I said.

[slipstream]

Camping - Just get the fuck out of spawn if you plan on camping, the map was not made for people to sit in spawn and wait, use the map. Also, when there is only one person left on one team, and more than one on the other team, the one person should camp, but when I see the other team camping against one person, they should all be slayed for being stupid.

Rejoining - On top of what was said about rejoining the server to bypass guns, the other day some guy was rejoining the server after dying in the first few seconds of the game, and by doing this he rejoined alive. Plus he was on nade level, so he kept rushing in with his first nade, dying right away, rejoins and is alive once again with another nade. I am tired right now and I don't remember his name, but he does have 26-28 wins.

Warm-up Round - Throw a nade if you want, no one is forcing you to throw it.

Mic Spam - HLDJ and HLSS and w/e other sound programs are being used, just disable the option to use them on the server. People are just annoying with the programs, playing 10sec of a song, or constantly spamming the same sounds. If people are yelling and being stupid on the mic that's different, admins can mute, but a votemute option would still be nice.

[slipstream]

I wouldn't mind if nextmap was fixed. Just saying.