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    I agree, Eth.

    Defender600 is a jackass. I've banned him in the past for breaking barricades. I've never seen you complain about anyone while I've been on. You're normally a pretty quiet person. If I missed it, I'm sorry. Try using Admin chat instead (teamspeak with an @ in front).

    Meanwhile, Korean does talk a lot and I've muted him in the past, but typically only when he's gone too far like the other night with the masturbating sounds while young women playing. I wish we could mute only voice chatter sometimes, since a mute also means no ztele, stuck or zmenu commands. I still don't understand why the disable voice chat on a per player basis in our CounterStrike clients doesn't work. Is this a server setting or something? Anyway, tangent aside, voice chat has become incredibly chaotic the last three weeks with all the HLSS and chatting going on outside of playing. Some of the worst offenders at times are actual admins, which doesn't set the precedent well for other players.

    On the topic of all the new admins, I've toned back my punishments because of younger admins causing drama whenever one of their friends gets muted, kicked, or banned (sometimes when it's not even their friend). I got my admin because I noticed the gameplay suffered on ZM when admins like Pooter or Nato weren't on and it pissed me off. Now, it seems like people get admin to avoid being punished, hiding behind the rules that they were breaking, much like Vicious' dirty cops metaphor.

    Now we have people placing votequestions that are social and often disrespectful, using setcolor on themselves and friends, allowing friends to use voice sounds constantly, using their admin to win arguments or shield themselves.

    I stayed quiet about it because I've had my own share of complaints and I don't want to cause drama when I'm just trying to have fun. But after a chat with Ice tonight, who repeated some of the same reasons, he mentions he's going to stay away from ZM as well. This is a minute or two after I log off from ZM to find out why the server isn't full (only 20 out of 32 players).

    After this and reading Eth's and Stamp's posts, both of whom are trustworthy regulars, I'm incredibly pissed and know exactly what's caused of all this. All of the complaints are my own as well but I've kept them to myself. But with the threat of the zombie server losing some of it's finest and perhaps even dieing, A stand has to be made and I'm willing to be the idiot to make it. No more leniency out of me and any admin that wants to cause drama over a punishment laid out fair and square can get muted along with their friends.

    Edit note: Threat not treat. Thanks, spellcheck.
    Last edited by Mallissin; 09-10-2008 at 12:02 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mallissin View Post
    No more leniency out of me and any admin that wants to cause drama over a punishment laid out fair and square can get muted along with their friends.
    Does this go for JOJO as well!?! The other night she was mic spamming and using vulgar language about other players but you only warned and muted those who said somthing to Jojo... it took Cujo getting on to finally mute her for her abuse... If you want to be fair thats GREAT but lets be fair to Everyone...

    otherwise Mallissin I agree 100%
    Last edited by Vladninja; 09-10-2008 at 12:07 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vladninja View Post
    Does this go for JOJO as well!?! The other night she was mic spamming and using vulgar language about other players but you only warned and muted those who said somthing to Jojo... it took Cujo getting on to finally mute her for her abuse... If you want to be fair thats GREAT but lets be fair to Everyone...
    Most of the time Jojo get's angry at people for singling her out, whether the creepy folk making comments on her voice, hitting on her, or following her around. I've tried to calm her down sometimes but it's hopeless. As I said in Nato's thread, she's getting muted permanently whenever I'm on.

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    Thank you Mallissin... I have no personal beef with you in fact I think you are one of the Good admins on ... I know you were sticking up for her cause people tend to talk crap because of her reputation... but sometimes it goes to far in the other direction. She knows the rules... and I believe you when you say you will mute her in the future(for mic spamming). I look forward to seeing you in game in the future!

    same post in other forum

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vladninja View Post
    Does this go for JOJO as well!?! The other night she was mic spamming and using vulgar language about other players but you only warned and muted those who said somthing to Jojo... it took Cujo getting on to finally mute her for her abuse... If you want to be fair thats GREAT but lets be fair to Everyone...

    Otherwise Mallissin I agree 100%
    On a general note about this topic, don't ask Cujo how many times I've told him I'm never playing ZM again because of all the little fuckheads and kids that are online. Theoretically, the census of shitheads should have decreased with the re-opening of school, sadly it seems to be the opposite.

    The other thing that happens with mic spam, that I've noticed, is when I'm on the opposite team from the spammer. If I'm human and from what I've noticed, Jojo seems to most often start her myriad of rants, bitches, raves and overall screaming when she gets turned into a zombie. I notice it when over all-speak people already zombified start bitching about her mic spam. This doesn't just apply to Jojo, it applies to all users.

    Zero, is there a way for admins to hear everything said over the mic? On ZM, its not a huge priority of tactics, sometimes it's close, but that's one of the biggest ways to find a mic spammer.

  6. Default howdy chillrun(again)/good we are getting back to rules

    I'm not leaving (never crossed my mind) and I don't see why you would but I am going to make damn sure people don't ruin this hip shit anymore that is ibis-not to say we should be violent or overeager to punish but dammits lets put some asshats in their place

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    Ok I will work on making a new rule against voting during mid round. Also I will try to see if a vote function can be put into the next admin mod. That will automatically detect the best time to start the vote even if the admin makes it.

    As for cade breakers ect, and spammers. If anyone posts a demo of them in the forums and it shows that and admin was on and ignored it the the player can be banned for up to a week based off of your demo. This way cade breakers and mic spammers will be lessened. In addition the next system will be able to track users punishment history and allow for easy detection of constant rule breakers so they can just be perma banned.



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    REMEMBER non-admins CAN ACT! If you provide evidence of someone breaking rules on the forums they will be punished. Also it creates a record of them and thus future punishments will grow harsher.



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    Quote Originally Posted by ZERO View Post
    As for cade breakers ect, and spammers. If anyone posts a demo of them in the forums and it shows that and admin was on and ignored it the the player can be banned for up to a week based off of your demo. This way cade breakers and mic spammers will be lessened. In addition the next system will be able to track users punishment history and allow for easy detection of constant rule breakers so they can just be perma banned.
    This is the real steak and potatoes of the problems in my eyes.

    Zero, I say if they can record a demo of the cade breaking or spamming occurring and tell us, I'd be more than willing to hand out the punishments.

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    I think i am going to come back to Zombie Mod server, seems like it does need some work, and if i get abuse reports like zero said, follow the guide lines and your fine. I am going to try and solve some of these problems, i am going to start logging every action i take and when people get repedative i am going to submit what i have to zero and he can decide what to do, ie up the ban(s) to perm, or month long, or something similar.

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