if we personally have 2 go out of our way 2 make this server have people on it every time someone wants 2 play, it's a failure. we might as well turn this server into something that will benefit the community more and bring in more support and community member as well as admins. I was excited for the idea of ViP also, but it seems no 1 gives a shit about this mod anymore... it was BEYOND epic back in the day, but those times have seemed 2 pass...