yea but they still talk.....and then you have to listen to them complain.
I think a non-dm, regular surf server with maps like 10x final, japan, akai, etc. Would be lots of fun, maybe even throw in a few skill maps. There is a distinct lack of servers like this, and if we have one I'm sure it wouldn't be hard to get some regular players there.
I stopped playing in the complete failure of a server that is hg jailbreak. Their admin's leak shit from their mouth and saliva from their ass. They are all fucked up.