slipstream, please QUIT YOUR FUCKING BITCHING, god damn man, i swear you spent more time bitching on the servers than you do actually playing the game. The only thing holding a zombie back from a cade is the props, and the only thing holding the zombies back from a Holdout spot "aka crouch spot" is the gunfire from the guns. Should we also limit the number of props for a cade, it would have the same effect. But i also want you to think before you run off to the forums to complain about the first thing that pisses you of in the game. People have been playing on the server for years, and several people who have are also the admins whom you hate so much. These are the people who know how ibis is run and what is allowed here, Not you, so please STFU