Dow finishes under 500 points

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I just want to point out "idealistic Republican" ie not necessarily conservative.

p.s. anyone one know where the conservatives actually went or did they die out along with the ideas of small gov and budgets.

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I just want to point out "idealistic Republican" ie not necessarily conservative.

p.s. anyone one know where the conservatives actually went or did they die out along with the ideas of small gov and budgets.

Agreed, but keep in mind that the label when it originated meant something entirely different. Back in Teddy Roosevelt's day, a conservative would be considered a moderate today. A progressive back then was like a liberal, and a liberal was more like today's conservatives. By the time of Nixon, a progressive was what we'd consider a conservative today, a conservative was a Roosevelt liberal and a liberal was like today's moderate. Take the same terms over to Europe today, and they all mean different things too. The labels swap around over time as politicians abuse the terms and try to trick voters to pick them.

It's better to listen to the person's views and classify them more accurately than let them decide what they are themselves. If they don't share their views, you shouldn't vote for them, and repeating a party line isn't sharing a personal view.

Meanwhile, Jim Jeffords is probably the closest thing to a Roosevelt conservative, and he went independent in 2001 because of Bush's EPA snafus. If he didn't break the control the GOP had over the House and Senate during the first Bush term, we'd probably be in deeper shit today. He is truly a hero.

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I just want to point out "idealistic Republican" ie not necessarily conservative.

p.s. anyone one know where the conservatives actually went or did they die out along with the ideas of small gov and budgets.

Hmm I haven't seen any since Pat Buchanan. Where has he been ?

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Thought I'd share this article written by Dilbert's creator, Scott Adams. He hired a poling company to survey over 500 well known economists about politics and shares the results.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/...omy/index.html

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Actually a progressive was more fascist when it first started when you actually look at it's origins you will see that for one progressives loved mussolini. In addition I should note that Hitler nor hitlerism is not entirely fascist and that there are big differences between the two. So please those of you that may not be well aquanauted with the subtle side notes of the fact books please refrain from trying to asurt that I am calling liberals or progressives jew haters or that they want totolarnaism.

I will try to make some posts pointing out how this really got started and how all the parties for the last 20 years are responsable.

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As a prequel I will start with the following before we go directly into this issue.

How do you get people to like you in a short period of time and sometimes without ever meting you? For one you could give them a gift or make there friends like you so that they can convince the other guy. Well giving out a gift is logically the best and most effective way of getting support. Now the money from the gift is actually coming from the person your giving it to but you are not going to take anything extra from them to give them this particular gift. Well how do you get the money?!

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Before I make my big post you should all try to take a look at the use of SSI (original name) or SS (current name) funds to pay for things other than what they were. You will see an interesting trend as to how the national debt magically went down during some administrations disproportionally to actual tax income and to increased spending.

Keep in mind that our gov has more then one book and that changes the way you got to look at things. Because results are not really 100% accurate you got to look at all the parts to understand what is really going on. The gov mislabels things and tries to hide data from us so we can not see what is going on.

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To me, this fall of MER comes as a huge shocker.

It was what... 3 weeks ago I declined an offer to go over to Merrill as an AVP??

I'm def not kicking myself in the ass now for staying with my sexy ass company.