minu 10-10-11 22:46

[taz1stP]

i have played with u man and u have done some imposable shots so have a lot of people but the amount of shots u do is to much to not be hacks.

[Spasm]

Want more proof? Take a look at his headshot percent on psycho stats http://www.ibisgaming.com/wcs_stats/...ill&order=desc 51.73 percent. Now take a look at the top 100 WCS players. http://www.ibisgaming.com/wcs_stats/ Out of the top 100, the closest is 37 percent, and this guy only uses the p90 or mp5, which if any of you know, is easy to headshot with. Out of the top 50, the closest is xerenix at 30 percent. This guy is sitting at a 20 percent higher headshot percent then anyone in the top 50 of WCS. He has also been banned in other servers for hacking. This is my last post in this thread, one more ban vote and I am pretty sure he stands no chance of being unbanned. Three uppers is thinking he is hacking.

[Link]

Gonna go with spasm on this one. Hacks

[brett friggin favre]

don't use stats to determine a players hacker/non-hacker status. wcs is usually played differently than other cs mods or regular cs. because of the powers, its beneficial to get a mp5 or p90 and just spray for the body, which is why you see low hs% on wcs usually. minu plays almost exclusively with the m4, ak, and deagle, which are supremely accurate, and good aim will easily get you headshots and a quick kill. therefore the best strategy is to aim for the head. he plays WCS differently than most people, and that is not evidence of hacking.
http://www.ibisgaming.com/gg_stats/player.php?id=172942 (me on GG, 43% hs)
http://www.ibisgaming.com/gg_stats/player.php?id=176762 (fluffy, 46%)

and thats on gungame where you're constantly moving and have to use the typical body shot guns. in wcs, if you want to stand still and go for headshots, you can surely do that and he uses the right guns for it. now if his hs% was up around 60-65, then i'd say there was something up, but just a few points above high ranking GG players...you can't use that as evidence. it's clear that he gets a lot of headshots, but he uses the right guns for it and what i have seen has no evidence that he is hacking.

[acolyte_to_jippity]

ok, why don't we wait for the clan to see this and weigh in?

if there's such disagreement between the uppers and alot of the regs, then this should be a clan matter.

[SCRIBBLE]

This was a clan matter when the unban thread was posted. These arguments mean nothing seeing as it is left to the opinion of whatever clan members decide to look at this thread.

Or panda if he decides to unban.

[Osage]

just to be an ass

http://www.ibisgaming.com/gg_stats/player.php?id=70900 (%48.71 HS on GG for me)

[Link]

ok, why don't we wait for the clan to see this and weigh in?

if there's such disagreement between the uppers and alot of the regs, then this should be a clan matter.

i haven't seen any disagreement between the upper level admins about this ban.

Xerenix and Scribble voted to permaban him.

Spasm is of the same opinion, and I add my voice to theirs.

The only one unaccounted for is Blade, and he had nothing to say for or against the ban.


4 Uppers saying permaban, 1 upper being a whore

What disagreement is there? lol

[Disflux]

ok, why don't we wait for the clan to see this and weigh in?

if there's such disagreement between the uppers and alot of the regs, then this should be a clan matter.

I agree. I think everybody should just back off of this until a clan member makes a decision.

[Dj panda]

As the banning admin, I am 100% sure he is hacking, Its not 100% on all the time, its called toggle for a reason. Just wanted to put that in there. Ive been suspecting him since he showed up. Got some really fishy headshots until i started watching him that office game, And i caught him in the act.