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[DJ_MikeyRevile]

all in all, they say there a peacful protest, yet you see them starting fires and violence all around the world. They have no real and clear mission apart from "ending corporate Greed" There logic is to take out the big fortune 5 hundred company's who provide millions of jobs, to achieve jobs? While there out there complaining about coorparate greed, they could be back at home working or looking for a job. Think of it this way, Coorparations dont hide the fact that they want all the money in the world, but the people protesting put 20k down on a 500,000 dollar house and expect it to go up in value or complain about Student loan intrests because its "un-ethical" to receive something in return for doing someone else a favor. OWS will wash over after most of them get arrested for disturbing peace. If the average person wasnt a retard with there money or maxinhg out there credit cards every other day, there would be no need to March on wallstreet. the 99% put them selves in this position because of there OWN greed.

[Steamer]

Hey dumbass!, it began as a protest.

What else....

Revolutionary War
Civil War and not only in America
Drafting Laws
Egypt Revolution 2011

Screw it.. the list can go on and on and on....

Don't be naive.

As for OWS, I don't see the collective doing much at all at it's current state. It's isn't about them hiding the fact they are greedy and want all the money in which they do, it's the fact that they discretely nickle and dime all customers, have way too much pull in politics, and buy their way into most everything they want. We have checks and balances in our government that are suppose to keep these things in check, but have been totally disregarded and picked apart by greedy lawyers to let a huge corporation avoid laws, payments, and taxes any normal person would be held up to doing / paying.

Quite honestly it has been this way since I can recall of any government history. I don't see much being done except for things to be done in a more secret and deficit reducing manner. Deceitful? Yes, Surprising? No.

Rome was destroyed, Greece was destroyed, Persia was destroyed, Spain was destroyed, all great country's are destroyed.... Why not ours? How much longer do you actually think your own country will last? Forever?... Don't think so.

Survivor guilt....

[StarsMine]

No one said you had to agree with a protest

[Chikun]

Glaring issues I see in politics:

1.) Lobbyists buy politicians for their own political agendas.

2.) All senate and house positions are filled with lawyers. Where are the doctors, engineers, teachers, and physicists? You know, the people advancing society. These people should be in positions of influence.

3.) The complete polarization of political parties.

4.) Politicians who denounce solutions without providing an alternative.

[Fluffy Frufflebottoms]

4.) Politicians who denounce a solution without providing an alternative.

That doesn't seem very sound. Politicians are just as responsible for keeping their constituents on firm ground as they are for leading them in the right direction. It may not always be easy to find the right answers, but that does not make the wrong answer any better.

[Chikun]

That doesn't seem very sound. Politicians are just as responsible for keeping their constituents on firm ground as they are for leading them in the right direction. It may not always be easy to find the right answers, but that does not make the wrong answer any better.

I equate it with the person in a group who always says no when coming up with places to eat.

Although, I should have pluralized the statement. I shall edit that.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

Here is this
http://directorblue.blogspot.com/201...photo-ows.html
then this


all in all, OWS logic: Take out the coorparations that provide millions of jobs, to get jobs! WAY TO GO!

[StarsMine]

Ok Mikey you have been misinformed
A few dumbasses in the crowd do not define the Many, I doubt most people marching would ever consider such acts if it wernt for mob mentality. Also we do have free speech such actions are protected by the constitution, to say "obama supports it" is compleatly skewing what obama supports.

Another thing, OWS are not against companies, they are against how strong an influence they have at in the government with their lobbyists. Which I am sure you would agree is bullshit. The amount of laws that get passed that do not protect the people but the heads of a certain company, the way tax laws currently works (there are so many loop holes in tax due to lobbying its like swiss cheese). Lobbying has its place but the ammount of influance they have on laws far exceed that of the entire voting populace.

[Steamer]

What Stars said...

First photo isn't even from OWS.

Unfortunately the "group" is to scattered with to many different organizations with too many different agendas, too many ignorant fools, and too many people that will do nothing.

Don't forget what the extent of people acting a fool did to kick start most other civil/revolutionary wars and big change.

Another thing, these people are from all walks of life's and political views, saying they are all Democratic is fucking retarded. News will always be and is biased.

I have a few friends that have participated in OWS in DC and are in the Army. Some peoples view on this is quite twisted as are some of those involved. How do they get the free time you ask? They can't get fucking orders because of budget cuts, money they and myself see being wasted on frivolous shit that isn't needed or being outsourced to cheaper subcontractors, money that could go to the family's of active armed forces that actually need to feed their family's instead of lining the pockets of the ones not doing their jobs.

Also, today parts of PA and Constitution where shut down again from these marches.

[Osage]

honestly if i see someone shitting on a flag or burning a flag.....well, lets just say it won't be pretty.