OCCUPY gets out of hand

[elpolloloco]

Whether or not you think the Occupy movement is just a bunch of slackers, but this is absolutely intolerable. I admit I'm a conservative and think a lot of this Occupy stuff is mostly a bunch of slackers, but regardless, watch this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=OZLyUK0t0vQ

For those two can't look at work or whatever: The cops threw a flash bang into the crowd, which injured someone. Even if it was an accident, the cops deliberately threw another one right INTO THE MIDDLE of a group of people that were trying to help the injured person.

This cop needs to be fuckin' crucified

This video needs to be all over the national news

[StarsMine]

Did you also see the one who just walked by and maced a group of protesters?
Most of the police have been acting the way they should, but there are always the dumbasses like this.

[brett friggin favre]

do you expect cops to be perfectly calm in that situation? that's not just a peaceful protest, that's essentially a riot (leave it to oakland). imagine being an admin on these servers, you go on the gungame server and holy shit people are tk'ing everywhere, calling each other ni****s, breaking rules left and right...what do you do? you throw a few 1 hr bans around to try to get stuff under control. peoples' lives are at risk in this situation or at least a cop can see it that way, and he was willing to risk the injury of a few to save the lives of more. crucify him? he's doing his job. you can have a PEACEFUL protest but don't riot, then you're just asking for this. you can only poke the dog a few times before it bites you. do you not see the "protesters" lobbing things at the cops? how long til that turns deadly? you HAVE to put a stop to it sometime

sorry i keep editing this. it's unfortunate that people were injured, but the occupy movement is supposed to be a peaceful, legal protest. in oakland, that turned into violence and illegal activity. THAT is not legal. when you cross the line, you accept the fact that there ARE consequences and you gotta be prepared for them.

[elpolloloco]

Let me state this: If the police are ordered to disperse the crowd and launch smoke and flashes into the crowd, I have no problem with it. But this isn't about that.

This is about the cops DELIBERATELY aiming, TRYING TO HIT HUMANS who were trying to help an injured person. This isn't about whether or not the crowd should have been broken up. I think those people are a bunch of slackers, but to deliberately try to injure a group of people TRYING TO HELP someone laying on the crowd critical injured is just unacceptable.

[brett friggin favre]

i understand what you're saying, however using a charged word like crucify is a little extreme. what happened should be looked into, but i don't see any reason to CRUCIFY this guy (literally or just in the media). haven't you made mistakes at your job? if it was a mistake, proper punishment actions should be taken, but would you want your job mistakes to be all over the national news?

[elpolloloco]

haven't you made mistakes at your job?

If I did it deliberately with intent to injure, then it wouldn't be a mistake, now would it?

[brett friggin favre]

If I did it deliberately with intent to injure, then it wouldn't be a mistake, now would it?

yes it would be. not an "oopsie" mistake, an "i overreacted" mistake, but a mistake nonetheless. also note that flashbangs, while capabilities of causing injury, are intended to disorient, and nothing more. it is a non-lethal form of crowd control, and as i stated before, the protesters were also lobbing things at the cops (with intent to injure?)

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

Let me state this: If the police are ordered to disperse the crowd and launch smoke and flashes into the crowd, I have no problem with it. But this isn't about that.

This is about the cops DELIBERATELY aiming, TRYING TO HIT HUMANS who were trying to help an injured person. This isn't about whether or not the crowd should have been broken up. I think those people are a bunch of slackers, but to deliberately try to injure a group of people TRYING TO HELP someone laying on the crowd critical injured is just unacceptable.

At what point in time was it intentional. The mayor passed down a direct order to allow police to use those means of crowd control. When some one gets injured in an angry unorganized riot, police need to do what ever then can to defuse the situation. If I was the cop who threw that flash, I would of thrown another with the intent to clear a path and get the injured out of a stampeding riot of protesters.


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Starsmine. I don't think you have a clear understanding of what a lobbyist is. A lobbist didn't give to ducks about what the out come of legislation or stokes or any other thing is. His job is to get payed to convince another to do somthing in favor of who ever hired the lobbyist to begin with. If you want to argue how to fix the gov, getting rid of lobbyists isn't the right way. Even if you outlawed the proffesion CEOs and congress man would still "lobby" them selves. America is capitalism and that is one of several reasons we are the greatest country in the world. To attempt to give the gov more power and turn our nation into a socialist fiasco is completly absurd.

[Steamer]

I don't think you have a clear understanding of what a lobbyist is. A lobbist didn't give to ducks about what the out come of legislation or stokes or any other thing is. His job is to get payed to convince another to do somthing in favor of who ever hired the lobbyist to begin with. If you want to argue how to fix the gov, getting rid of lobbyists isn't the right way. Even if you outlawed the proffesion CEOs and congress man would still "lobby" them selves. America is capitalism and that is one of several reasons we are the greatest country in the world. To attempt to give the gov more power and turn our nation into a socialist fiasco is completly absurd.

You are right on what a lobbyist is. What does capitalism usually lead to Mikey? Think about it... What the attempt is, is to take power back from the government and the rich people that are seated in it for their own greed. This shit has all happened before... Will happen again... Just a matter of when... Then repeated again, and again, and again. People and power roles get out of hand and shit needs to be put back in place or will implode. Nothing new.

IDK about you, but I'd rather be able to self sustain than have shit fed to me by a fucking government. I can do shit on my own, by myself, I am my own fucking man, I don't need to be forced and told what to do by another.

[StarsMine]

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