sv_pure

[Fluffy Frufflebottoms]

I've previously raised the ire of several people in this community by questioning the decision to not enable sv_pure for at least some resources, but I figured I'd take a stab at it again now that it seems more pertinent. When you uncritically permit customised resources, you end up with people like these on your servers. I know that too many people around here value their customised player and weapon skins more than a fair and even experience for everyone, and that a complete sv_pure would likely never be enacted, but I see absolutely no argument for why sv_pure 1 with a tight whitelist should not be maintained.

Thoughts?

[Rezel]

Sv_Pure will only work on servers which are not using custom mods. Just as sv_pure disables custom skins and textures, it also disables them server side also; in other words its basically like running a modded server that's broken and mod less.

Yes its possible to change this, but overall its not worth the time of handling it.

[Sin]

It wouldn't be difficult to add to the regular Pub #1 server config. All the extra plugins/mods cause retarded registration anyway. Played on there for a few rounds last night.

PS: Zero, you should put the regular server on its own box. It would be the best server ever!

[Rezel]

It wouldn't be difficult to add to the regular Pub #1 server config. All the extra plugins/mods cause retarded registration anyway. Played on there for a few rounds last night.

PS: Zero, you should put the regular server on its own box. It would be the best server ever!

it doesn't need it, your going to have more limitations with the engine before you start backing up the server....

[brett friggin favre]

if it could be reasonably implemented: i'd say do it. however, anyone who makes use of advantage-giving exploits based on our lack of sv_pure will either be banned, or will be inconsequential in the server due to lack of skill. since it would be difficult to implement and maintain the servers as we know them, i'd say at least hold off on it. maybe make one of the servers (pub as suggested above?) a test server for the new setting, and just see how it goes. then if the community likes it, implement it on other servers in the best way we see fit. let the people experience it, then see what the reaction is.

[Chikun]

if it could be reasonably implemented: i'd say do it. however, anyone who makes use of advantage-giving exploits based on our lack of sv_pure will either be banned, or will be inconsequential in the server due to lack of skill. since it would be difficult to implement and maintain the servers as we know them, i'd say at least hold off on it. maybe make one of the servers (pub as suggested above?) a test server for the new setting, and just see how it goes. then if the community likes it, implement it on other servers in the best way we see fit. let the people experience it, then see what the reaction is.

How do you go about proving that someone is using modded skins to have things that make player models stand out more or if they have a red dot for the scout or AWP? Personally, I bet I could probably no-scope someone with a scout down long hall on office because it's such a common camp spot.

[acolyte_to_jippity]

fuck that. what's the point of it?

[Sin]

How do you go about proving that someone is using modded skins to have things that make player models stand out more or if they have a red dot for the scout or AWP? Personally, I bet I could probably no-scope someone with a scout down long hall on office because it's such a common camp spot.

You can't. It's nigh impossible to prove unless the culprit admits to it themselves or is blatantly obvious, as the thread Fluffy referenced showed. This is why sv_pure is on on all competitive CS public servers. I'm not saying IBIS should become a competitive server, as I've always enjoyed fucking around in there with all-talk on, but it really wouldn't hurt the server if many of the plug-ins that have been added over the years were taken off, and possibly substituted with more reasonable plug-ins, ie; zblock...

Don't get me wrong, I could care less if things were to stay as is, this is merely a suggestion or food for thought, as it were.

No trolling here.

[brett friggin favre]

How do you go about proving that someone is using modded skins to have things that make player models stand out more or if they have a red dot for the scout or AWP? Personally, I bet I could probably no-scope someone with a scout down long hall on office because it's such a common camp spot.

gimme an hour to practice and i could do it without skins. what i'm talking about is people who manipulate map textures to have what is equivalent to wallhacks. a red dot with an awp is silly cuz noscoping is pretty inaccurate with it anyway.

[Chikun]

I think it would be a good idea to at least implement it in the Pub server to test it then.