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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluffy Frufflebottoms View Post
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    "Deemed a threat" outside of the traditional judicial system, with no protections afforded. This kind of legislation keeps the country in a permanent, self-perpetuated state of war against an ideology, and the people that it accuses of following it. Keep in mind that being exempt from required detainment merely makes the detainment discretionary in accordance with the rest of the bill, and as far as I recall, the executive branch has come out and said that U.S. citizens and residents are fair game if they're deemed to be engaged in terrorism.

    Declaring war on everyone who looks at you the wrong way, and giving military and intelligence agencies unilateral discretion to make that determination is the modus operandi of a police state, not of a free society. No nation with a legitimate respect for civil rights and justice would ever need this kind of legislation.
    Dont get your head stuck around our country's way of handling criminals. As i stated once before the Law Of War and Geneva convention give strict and very clear rules when handling someone of that status. if some one commits a crime in the states it is handled by the judicial system, if someone commits an act of war or terrorism, they are handled under the Law of war. Its not hard to understand, really. It almost sounds as if your defending citizens who ARE currently involved in some terrorist activity by showing no trust in the people who live an die for your freedom. To fear a bill like this only means you do not have a clear understanding of how 1. the military works, 2. What the Law of war is, and 3. you feel like a possible target for god knows why.

    Might i add that there would be serious repercussions if some random solider started arresting every body.

    here is a link to a wiki page on the LOW
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laws_of_war
    i can assure you that detained individuals still have rights as a prisoner of war.

    in case you are wondering why i am defending this bill, im sure you are aware that we are growing into some pretty tough times as an individual nation and globally. Being on loose terms now with some country's who have had a large amount of its people immigrate to America. If we were to go to war with one of those country's, who is to say someone now naturalized here in the states would want whats best for there home land then our country. The bill is a precaution to what may come down the road and i see it as a necessity in these times.
    Last edited by DJ_MikeyRevile; 12-08-2011 at 07:02 PM.
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