order in the court

[Pl@YwithM3]

alright, im actually really glad this subject was brought up. in regards to the zombie mod server, i Pl@Y there a great deal of time and id like to think i know the rules of it very well. admins CANNOT watch every little thing happening in the server and of course they will punish a person who cade breaks in front of them (HOPEFULLY AFTER ISSUING A WARNING FIRST) as for those who make complaints an cry out "xxxx JUST BROKE MY CADE BAN HIS ASS NOW" - the PROPER thing to do would be to issue a warning to the person being accused and if that person ignores the warning and repeats their offence, THEN you punish them. if they claim "WTF IDIOT ADMIN IM NOT DOIN ANYTHING WRONG" then you should ask them why people are complaining about them. if they say "NO IM NOT THEYRE LYING" then the best thing to do in this scenario (in my opinion) is to just spectate the Pl@Yer to see first hand whats really going on and then take it from there to see if any further punishments are needed.

i know this isnt exactly the most appropriote place to say it, but from what ive seen, majority of the admins on zm are absolute SHIT and either dont know/care what theyre doing, have no knowlege of the rules, and/or are just using their admin and doing things as they please and punishing Pl@Yers when they feel like it, slaying, kicking ppl without any warning. and quite frankly its pissing me off (as well is the regulars im sure) we pay for admin so yeah we have these privileges, BUT THEYRE PRIVILEGES WITH A PURPOSE! if you go and buy admin than BE the admin you are supposed to be. otherwise save us (mainly the clan members) the hastle an just gtfo of ibis please, thankyou, bye bye now

[maynard]

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[Rosie]

Minus the Michelle quote I had a good point in my thread.

[Pl@YwithM3]

yeah, on what you said before rosie, its just a matter of how admins are handling the problem Pl@Yers that needs a little work. admins are aware of it of course but not all are resolving them properly. so i totally agree with what you said about educating those who are tk'ing, cadebreaking ect. about just not doing those things instead of laying on the punishments right off teh bat. that way theyll be a LOT less likely to rage and continue their offense. as for the people who do those things for trolls and lol's... thats a different story

[acolyte_to_jippity]

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this is why i feel so unloved maymay. i have an epic moment, but then NOPE! maynard.

Minus the Michelle quote I had a good point in my thread.

i don't remember your point, but yeah.


@op person, to sum up what i said before the mass cleaning, basically, admins are only human. we can't see everything all the time. the reason we take action when someone breaks our cade, is because we see them do it. however we're not allowed to take action if we don't actually wittness anything. your position is that admins should be restricted from ever actually playing, and only sitting there at the beck and call of asstards like yourself. well i got some news for you: fuck off. there is nothing stopping you from contributing to the servers and getting admin to help us out. if you want to get admin and sit there not playing just punishing people, be my fucking guest.

[Hitman]

This thread is full of win btw......

And +1 To Michelle.....So right in many ways.

[Sinsanity]

I'm actually one of the admins that mostly stay in spectate and babysit. But even while in spectate I still can't see everything fast enough, since the names are in a unknown random order I can't get to soand so's persons screen right away I got locate them with a series of clicks, but shit goes down way too fast, so ill issue a verbal warning and monitor that player.

I also find myself correcting the actions of some admins several times and even regulars on the zm servers. Somethings ill let slide like an admin slapping himself slightly about 3the times, As long as he's not trying to get an unfair advantage. As for newer admins, I was once a new admin as well, so I know how it feels still learning. I always ask questions and I'm constantly reading the forums and admin abuses to learn from mistakes. Point is, garbage admins are garbage but don't think there aren't admins out there that care about your game experience in-game. I'm not on alot as much as I want to with work, school, and the missus, still add me on steam and send me a message if there aren't any admins on. Ill try to make time if I have to study and stay in spectate at the same time.

Sorry for the text wall

[CrazyHorse]

@op person, to sum up what i said before the mass cleaning, basically, admins are only human. we can't see everything all the time. the reason we take action when someone breaks our cade, is because we see them do it. however we're not allowed to take action if we don't actually wittness anything. your position is that admins should be restricted from ever actually playing, and only sitting there at the beck and call of asstards like yourself. well i got some news for you: fuck off. there is nothing stopping you from contributing to the servers and getting admin to help us out. if you want to get admin and sit there not playing just punishing people, be my fucking guest.

This is the attitude people get when they complain in game about someone in game if the admins even pay attention to the complaint. The solution is not MORE admins, since there is plenty already. The solution is to take complaints seriously. If you can't handle making the servers an enjoyable place for everyone to play, then what good are you. Don't just worry about what people do to you, your responsibility is to all that are on the servers. Don't like having to sit in spectate for a couple rounds to make sure everyone is behaving, too bad, no one is forcing you to be an admin.

-reviewed the rules and ToS, no where, unless I am blind, does it say the admin needs to witness the event. So, when you have regulars on, that don't break rules themselves and other trustworthy people, and they have something happen to them while an admin is on but not witness to the event, if they complain about it, do the same thing you would do if you witnessed it yourself. If the person accused thinks the punishment was not justified, they can make a complaint on the forum, like so many admins tell people to do about the problem players.

Punish people like you witnessed it, providing the complaint comes from a somewhat reliable source, and let the problem player make the thread. Don't make the person having their game ruined make the thread about another player.