Z20 Summit

[Rosie]

The rules seem pretty clear. There is still some complaints that stem around the crouch spot 2 per rule. But it usually involves different kind of crouch spots.

Also i would love to have your input on this thread. http://www.ibisgaming.com/forums/sho...aradox-What-do

I believe that door can be opened outwards, but I am not sure.

[Sinsanity]

I'm personally still waiting for the player force ztele to come back in effect. It was handy to have when enforcing the 2per tube rule and blockers without slaying anyone. Don't get me wrong I love slaying on good reason, but zteleing keeps people alive and the rage at a minimum.

[acolyte_to_jippity]

yeah, i got one suggestion.

:ahem:

ANEX!!! WE WANT YOU BACK!!!!!!!! :sobs uncontrollably:


:slap!:

i'm ok.

[B1ackOut]

Would it be possible to post something about illegal cades, just some you feel are illegal so that way every admin, new or old, knows exactly what places, even if its a starting list, are 100% illegal.

[acolyte_to_jippity]

Would it be possible to post something about illegal cades, just some you feel are illegal so that way every admin, new or old, knows exactly what places, even if its a starting list, are 100% illegal.

it almost sounds like you're suggesting an illiegal cade section...

[B1ackOut]

yes...yes.. i think i am. Too many times people make up their own. I know there is a thread about it somewhere, but i think something that we can ban people for should really be included with the official rules. Of course it doesnt have to be done right now, but more of a goal for the future.

[Bane of Soldiers]

Yeah, I think updating the illegal cade section would be nice... And also formatting the forum/subforums about the legality of spots
Some people get confused that everything here is illegal:
http://www.ibisgaming.com/forums/for...l-Cading-Spots
Where it is really a "... section... to propose and state which cading spots are illegal and legal." Some people get it right away when I straighten them out, but there are some persistent ones who flat out ignore replies and tend to drag the newbies into their misguided ideas.

In regards to the "two per crouch spot" rule, it is rather hazy. It seems to be only called into effect when it suits an admin's needs. Two only in small areas, like a pipe, and free for all in large areas, in texashighschool and snoopie.

For the force ztele, I prefer that it doesnt come back. When you slay rule breakers, they have no choice but to ask why they were slayed and will be forced to read the reply. Timebomb works even better, as it gives them a chance to amend their actions so you can toggle the timebomb off. When you force ztele them, they will still be alive and running. Likely, they won't read any explanation of the rules nor will they ask. Either method will probably make a player bitch and whine, but slay/timebomb snaps it to their head fast.

[Sinsanity]

Point taken, I guess when it comes down to it its gunna be the same result. Timebomb sounds fun I haven't done that for awhile.

Something else that bothers me is the humans zteleing. Two issues is:

A. They ztele, they said they were stuck, but you didn't see it to prove it. My only conclusion is sourcetv. Ban them but what-if they aren't even playing during the time I ban them?

B. When someone uses the ztele command in teamchat and I can't see it.

Conclusions?

[Pl@YwithM3]

hoi, i want in on this topic;

vent / crouch spots: anyone (i think) would agree that no more than 2 per tube is an obvious done deal, so next. in special cases such as snoopy or fubar ect, that "debate" is just a mess of bs. different admins have different opinions on how it should be, but the inevitable catch is that its damn near impossible to enforce it in the heat of the moment unless an admin feels like taking their sweet time to pay close attention and slay / scold each an every person who crawls in the space after 2 ppl. an even AFTER you do it, it will happen again. scenarios like those are (currently) impossible to maintain steadily, no matter what our ruling is on it. if you wanna try an edit the map an cut down the space in w.e crouch spot it is than that may be the best (only) solution. but in the end i agree with anex completely about those clusterfucked crouchspots; twice the pride, double the fall.

friendly zambies: im in favor i think its fun(ny) to have them. however i only agree to this as long as they arent dicking around and getting in the way, AND that when / if they are caded / hidden with the last remaining humans, that they immediatly tag or ztele out for obvious reasons. its just me but thats the policy ive always gone with an its done well thus far.

slaying / blowing up ppl who ignore admins / break a rule has always been a favorite punishment of mine, so yeah i dont think we need forced ztele back because it just doesnt send people the same message as when they get their asses blown up... but again... thats just me

along with B1ack0uts post, i agree we need a solid master list of legal and illegal cades so there isnt any bickoring or missunderstanding between admins. it just makes us look like idiots in the server when we do that. imo the most critical thing needing to be fixed on the server is how the admins enforce these rules and knowing that admins are enforcing them the RIGHT way and not just based off of a personal opinion. so ya we need a place where all admins can verify what is right and wrong and how to resolve it. or at least revise the one we already have.

teleporters / glitching doors: penumbra or even 4corners for example, i dont think it should be illegal cading teleport-wise. i mean between most the admins/regs, weve ALL proven that you can maneuver around those as a zombie. i mean theres even an abuse thread where bob missguidedly banned a kid for "cade breaking" that teleport spot in penumbra AS A ZOMBIE. so that right there is enough for my opinion on teleport cades. as for glitching doors on the other hand, we already know (i think?!) that its a no no. its just a matter of enforcing it. people do it all the time an its annoying, its just that admins arent paying attention and catching ppl in the act.

the zm/ze Pl@Ying ratio: yeah the rankwhores regs an most admins loathe ze maps, but its what makes all the noobs happy an what KEEPS THEM AROUND! without those obnoxious ze's, us regs can kiss our beloved noobs goodbye when / if we ever decide to make our server zm only, then nobody will wanna Pl@Y. you rankwhores wanna keep your stats goin up? than you can suck it up an sit in spec during ze's, or better yet grow a pair and actually partake. otherwise, no noobs for u, nuff said about that

as for the respect bit being spoken of: that really isnt something we can take charge of or enforce at all. manners an such yeah we can do that. but as for teamwork or zteleing out of a cade when you spawn as zombie, or helping a noob out.. thats just unmanagable. sure as admins we should be making sure everyone is enjoying themselves while they Pl@Y, but we cant make any of those above things manditory because theyre not rules. in the end its all about people as individuals and chosing whether or not we want to be nice to people in game.

o ya... one more thing. the admin panel is glitchy as fck more than often. so if possible, THATS somethin i wouldnt mind being fixed

thats all i got, idk ill post if i think of somethin else

---------- Post added at 05:33 AM ---------- Previous post was at 05:30 AM ----------

!!!!DOUBLE POST ZOMG!!!!!

ghosting, that shit really pisses me off

o an ppl who wait in spec to intentionally spawn as a zambie just to up their stats, it ruins the game

k im done this time for real bye