Rank whoreing on zm: The good and the bad.

[THE HOLY SH**T!]

There was still rank, and trust me people looked at stats page and rank whore'd (pooter). Killa had nothing on others, most dipped before you got there though.

Also I will agree, being in top 10 is a joke anymore.

Impossible cades do exist... they are just very very rare.

I'm talking when zmod was first introduced in ibis, before the time rank was based on "skill".

I'm sorry if you don't like my attitude and way of playing but thats how I am.

I still don't believe it's right to force people to play maps they don't like. I sometimes start up css, about to play some zmod, but as soon as I see some map I don't like I just don't join. Wouldn't this be the same problem as in going into spectate? I've seen plenty of people in spectate enjoy themselves watching others die and laugh at us, would this be a problem? These people are having fun playing what they want to do, which is why people nag about the map, leave, or go into spectate.

I understand the meaning behind the best players back then and I praise thy for being great. But I guess now people have changed, new people join and do what they want and it became like this.

As for the true skill and rankwhore skill by using cheap methods, that would be an interesting idea. Something like surviving rounds score compared to kills score you mean? I wouldn't mind something like that.

Also what has been said before about "cheap spots" by blackout, I agree with him and like to include, what am I going to do sitting in a simple good cade? twiddle with my dick? No, I want to have fun, maybe sum kill zombies now that I think I'm invincible. And it coincidentally gives skill for getting kills.

But I also agree with rosie about the "cheap" spots though, it will take a good amount of teamwork to break them cades. In a game with purely experienced zmod players, it would be interesting how zombies and humans fight. But since it's nearly impossible to have a good team, thats where I believe the "rankwhore" began. Because they couldn't trust the team, they had to rely on themselves, doing things on their own, bitching when people fuck up on what they were doing.

As I said, theirs many maps with cheap spots. Cades and spots that become physically impossible to break; ex specially with a 5 min time frame..

Rank whoring is easier to do on this server, with a TEAM. The best at times have work together time and time again.. It is how the best people have usually gotten their. With players only looking to benefit themselves by watching their own rank, are selfish and isolate themselves. This will continue and will affect your decision on map making. ( playing maps you prefer "the good because I think their good" ) . When you make decisions like that, it will keep rotating the same maps again, again which is also another reason rank whoreish is selfish; and we play the same maps over and over ( also because some maps are good, and people favour them. So im not saying that being a rank whore isn't always the reason why we play the same maps; but they contribute to that factor by being selfish) .

Again I think your opinions are selfish, I am in favour of everyone out of spectate within our servers. ( will also see how many people are active within game aswell )

[Chef C Green]

Yeah, I agree with with what Rosie said about those cades being breakable with trained zombies, but we definitely need to account that not all zombies are trained and WILL get in the way when trying to break them (thus making them NEAR to impossible to break).

Beachstrike is fine... don't hate on that map = (, The stairs you can make zombie train, the blue rooms typically get shot out by noobs, basement can be pulled out / pushed in with TEAMWORK, and I enjoy sitting on my rock in the water shooting away poisons and parachuting zombies haha.

What I really wanted to comment on though is the ranking system that Holy brought up. I agree that (no offense to anyone) the top ranks are a bit monopolized by the "deathmatch" type ranking system. Having an alternate ranking system or changing it to the noob,fan,...131337, master would give the recognition for survival/objective completion that I think a good deal of players would want. No, I don't want to simply jerk off in a cade for the duration of the round, but again I want to survive (which doesn't always happen when I am accompanied with other players). I guess I just want a way to get players to work together as opposed to fighting at odds ends when viewpoints differ. If I were cading with Wuman for instance, we both trust one another as cade proficient and will either back off or build the cade. How do we get this kind of trust/information to new players? Would this be offensive to new players that want to build the cades? Idk, just puttin' it out there.

Lastly, stop wasting thread space on fighting over whether or not little town is good or bad, we get there's a difference in map preferences, but I hate reading it over and over. Please stop you two >.<
-Chef

[Pl@YwithM3]

What I see now is just a joke, that people with a sniper can hold of a horde of zombies Alone.

lol wth map can that be done on? XD

more constructive note: can it be implimented in the server settings that once a map is Pl@Yed, it be temp. removed from the voting list until the entire mapcycle on the server has gone through? that way we'll have gotten a chance to check out EVERY map on the server and there will be no chance of having repeat maps up in votes? (unless an admin does otherwise) that would resolve this little bitchfit imo
sidenote: i love beachstrike, its a personal fav. an i dont Pl@Y it for the sake of whoring in the kills, i enjoy it because I ENJOY IT! its fun (for me at least) the way you can fight off zombies in it either under the stairs or as green said up on the tall rock in teh water. the same can be said for all of those other "whore maps" i Pl@Y them a lot because theyre fun to me, i dont give a flying fuck about the stats benefits they give me when i do well. (an no dont tell me otherwise because i can get just as many shotty kills as i want on any other map tyvm) - little_town can still go to hell though

final note; NO CADE is unbreakable! cry all you want but ANY cade can be broken when done properly AND cooperatively., the people who cant are just impatient or suck an give up to easily. ask james an he'll tell you no different.

[Rosie]

Ok Meltdown. Without mentioning that map that you hate. Can you tell me what maps we are suppose to play that you think are fair to both sides? I would really like to see you come up with a 12 hour map rotation that does not drive half the server away. If you get the opinion of the noobs, I am sure ZE_Predator sounds f*cking sweet. But to any admin or reg, we know that it looks good and plays good, but unless an admin sits in spec and freezes all the Zombies when they try to tag, Humans never win! That and the fact that there are not to be "friendly" zombies per the rules. We would have to slay a Zombie for not tagging.

I do not think you understand that almost everyone in this conversation was a noob and got there ass handed to them by the regs. We then stuck around long enough not to be one anymore. Then more noobs join and you rape them. they stick around and become regs. After you play ZM for long enough, you leave for awhile, but you always stop back by. When you stop back by, you are the best of the best, and you rape on the server. It does not matter what map, or what the situation, If you took that crap top10 that everyone speaks of, and had all of them play any map rotation you want they would top the scorecard. Not because they are rankwhores but because they have logged alot of hours and know how to play.

Now concerning teamwork! It still happens. None of us truelly like being alone in a cade, but we only trust so many people. If Fallen is standing outside my already built cade, I would break it, and rebuild it to save him as a teammate. I would not however open myself to fail teamwork. if I have never been in a cade with you then your probally not getting in. (I might let James in) The objective of this server is to survive. If it end up as Wuman, Fallen and myself alive in a cade, dont think of us as rankwhores, just overacheivers!

[Steamer]

Why you try and rank whore with a shelf and a one way crouch spot! Rank whore! Rank whore!

[jimmay]

Why you try and rank whore with a shelf and a one way crouch spot! Rank whore! Rank whore!

wait...wait...trying to put on a straight face...nvm, I give up...

[toma]

Why you try and rank whore with a shelf and a one way crouch spot! Rank whore! Rank whore!

*golf clap*

[Rosie]

I fail at life!

Up until you made an ass of yourself tonight I just thought you were an old reg, and therefore had a clue. You since then have proven yourself otherwise. I regret to inform you that all opinions you have on this forum have lost validity. At some point in the future I hope you can undue this. I played with you for a little while earlier and you seemed to be ok. I don't know if you are attempting to get in some sort of "battle of whits" with everyone, or if you are slightly smarter than a grapefruit. Either way, I will be playing ZM more than I have been, and I hope that you do not hold it against me for my realization of your idiocy.

[Pl@YwithM3]

Up until you made an ass of yourself tonight I just thought you were an old reg, and therefore had a clue. You since then have proven yourself otherwise. I regret to inform you that all opinions you have on this forum have lost validity. At some point in the future I hope you can undue this. I played with you for a little while earlier and you seemed to be ok. I don't know if you are attempting to get in some sort of "battle of whits" with everyone, or if you are slightly smarter than a grapefruit. Either way, I will be playing ZM more than I have been, and I hope that you do not hold it against me for my realization of your idiocy.

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[Meltdown]

lol wth map can that be done on? XD

I think you can guess that in 1 try, Little town Fallen noted me to it he used that map to increase his scout kills because the cades are not breakable, and by shooting a zombie stuck ( many are to dumb to ztele out) you gain easily scout kills with less effort.

@ Rosie I'm not aware of all the maps of the cycle but With the maps that are waited to be added I can easily make 12 map rotation with 50/50 zm/ze without making people run away. The idea is just to have more different maps and not the same too oftend why do we have like 265 maps (not sure the exact number) and we only plat like 20% of them, that is just a total waste of great maps.